Lightning Strikes?

[Sakuraluna]

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And I'm more or less arguing the "I can't get it easily, just throw it up in the cash shop" mentality that people seem to have these days. Missed out on a special event, throw it up in the cash shop. Can't get a special dye due to RNG, throw it up in the cash shop, etc. IMO I did earn it, because I played the game. It wasn't hard to do, no. And it wouldn't be hard for someone else to do either, if they choose to bring the event around again. I could say the same thing about those primal mounts you mentioned. They're really just vanity, why not throw them up for $25 alongside Sleipnir, and let players who don't want to farm primals have at it. If you've earned one, would you feel that's fair? And if you'd read my second paragraph, you would have noticed that I'm not actually opposed to the items being made available again in the future, in-game of course.

Just curious, but why is anyone opposed to this event (or any event) returning again? If participating a second/third/fourth/etc time doesn't seem appealing to you, why not simply pass on it and continue doing whatever it is you normally do within the game (leaving it for those who do want to participate)? As far as I'm aware participation in any of these events isn't mandatory.

With the fact that the Lightning questline isn't repeatable, I have no idea.

[Defteros]

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not everyone playing the game right now, is playing from the beginning, like you, or me, or dunno enyone else xD
yes, you got to partecipate to the event, you got your Haircut and gear and weapons...
people who only recently started playing, didn't have the "fortune" to partecipate in it.
it seems fair, that they can have another chance to partecipate in this events....
on one side, they could re-implement these events in the game (for example, I didn't partecipate in the Christmas event where you could obtain the snowman suit, and I wish I did, looking at this year clothes >_>), but that would mean there will be people arguing about it because they want something new, and not something they aready have...

I really don't get how could someone be upset about past events reward in the cash shop.
you like spent something around 10 minutes maxv to obtain everything the event had to offer.
farming primal mount with a REALLY low drop rate, with other 7 people fighting for it. are two different things. completely. you can't compare them.

the point is. Lightning event is not even a FFXIV related event.
they threw her in, at random. just for fanservice.
it would be stupid, to make this event something like a "recurring event".

[LineageRazor]

Just curious, but why is anyone opposed to this event (or any event) returning again?

As I noted on page 2, these events pile up. The more weeks or months SE devotes to regurgitating old special events cuts into the weeks or months they can devote to NEW special events. It may be just two or three events now - but years from now? When they've had all kinds of special events come and go? Suddenly, every place you go in the game has these oddball cameo events springing up. Shantoto FATEs, Lightning FATEs, Dragon Quest FATEs whatever new crossover events SE adds to the game over time. The world becomes a circus of non-FFXIV characters romping around, distracting people who are trying to play, you know, FFXIV.

Plus, these events are PASSE! The Lightning Returns game has been launched already, and it's not going to launch again. The event was introduced to the game to celebrate and draw attention to Lightning Returns. To implement it again now would be for one purpose: to get Lighning equipment and hairstyles into the hands of players who haven't gotten them yet. That goal can easily be accomplished by cash shop, without cluttering the game with an event whose main purpose is now obsolete.

Limited time events are great, but when they go, it's time to say goodbye. Putting the rewards in the cash shop means that folks years down the road will not have lost their opportunity to get the items involved.

[Gyson]

The world becomes a circus of non-FFXIV characters romping around, distracting people who are trying to play, you know, FFXIV.

I disagree. You may not be a fan of it, but (like it or not) at this point Lightning is part of FFXIV's lore. We don't get to choose which parts we consider canon (that privilege goes to the designers), and the developers can have Lightning return for whatever reason they can fancy - if that is their desire.

All these "there's no point for her to return" comments don't work. Let the developers figure out what the point would be (if they want the event back for new players (and old players who are fans)). And if it shows up, and you're not interested in it, then just ignore it.

I had fun with the Heavensturn event, but completed it on day 1. It has and will continue to go on for two weeks beyond that, with people running around still participating in it every day, dragging sheep everywhere while donning silly hats. Should I be looking at it as a "circus" that has long overstayed its welcome simply because I've already had my fill of it?

[Nestama]

All these "there's no point for her to return" comments don't work. Let the developers figure out what the point would be (if they want the event back for new players (and old players who are fans)). And if it shows up, and you're not interested in it, then just ignore it.

Except they do. The Lightning Returns event was a prequel to the Lightning Returns game. Now that the game is a year old now (and done with), there's no point to bring this event back (thus why some of us are saying it would seem SE has run out of ideas when every other event they've made has been different in one way or another). There's also no way for SE to bring Lightning back to Eorzea in a new FFXIII event because of how Lightning Returns ended. If they brought Lightning back to FFXIV in a new event, they would be breaking FFXIII's lore, which is something Yoshi-P himself said they would never do.

Dead characters or characters finished with their story (or something lore related. Word of God says Red XIII, for example) can not enter Eorzea.

[kyuven]

Dead characters or characters finished with their story (or something lore related. Word of God says Red XIII, for example) can not enter Eorzea.

Didn't stop them from bringing the event back for the anniversary.
I think what he meant was NEW events won't feature characters that are dead or have their story completed, since the Lightning Strikes quests can only be completed once, therefore she technically only comes to Eorzea once from your character's perspective.
So, as I mentioned earlier, the most likely time they'll bring the event back is for the anniversary.

[Nestama]

Didn't stop them from bringing the event back for the anniversary.
I think what he meant was NEW events won't feature characters that are dead or have their story completed, since the Lightning Strikes quests can only be completed once, therefore she technically only comes to Eorzea once from your character's perspective.
So, as I mentioned earlier, the most likely time they'll bring the event back is for the anniversary.

And that was pushing it as there was no reason to make the event happen again (not from a lore perspective nor for promoting another game. It was just there just because). I personally would prefer new events for the anniversary of the game in 2015, not recycled events from 2013. As for the items themselves, they can either remain as exclusive event items for the cool kids club or be put into the cash shop.

Mostly opposed against the event for lore reasons, for both games. Yes, the FFXIV team could make Lightning appear again in a completely new event, but then that would be breaking FFXIII's lore in so many ways (Lightning Returns ending reasons).

[Gyson]

Mostly opposed against the event for lore reasons, for both games. Yes, the FFXIV team could make Lightning appear again in a completely new event, but then that would be breaking FFXIII's lore in so many ways (Lightning Returns ending reasons).

It doesn't have to be a new event. It can be the exact same event as the prior runs, leaving those that have done it before with no concerns (as they won't have to worry about being bothered by it again).

It's just how MMOs work. Think of how many times events are repeated each and every day, and nobody bats an eye about it. Every single player here has been (for example) duped by a traitor, captured by the Amalj'aa, and served up on a platter to Ifrit - and then defeated him. All the exact same story, all at different times, from the day the game launches to the day it goes offline forever.

There is absolutely zero difference between that and new players experiencing Lightning's event. Most events in this game are not one-shot. And I am unaware of any rule that states "seasonal" events have to be.

[Niwashi]

Mostly opposed against the event for lore reasons, for both games. Yes, the FFXIV team could make Lightning appear again in a completely new event, but then that would be breaking FFXIII's lore in so many ways (Lightning Returns ending reasons).

You're assuming that Lightning Returns has already ended. Each game world has it's own timeline and when crossovers occur they could draw from any time before, during, or after the source game. A pre-"Lightning Returns" Lightning could appear in XIV next year just as well as she did last year.

[Gyson]

Dead characters or characters finished with their story (or something lore related. Word of God says Red XIII, for example) can not enter Eorzea.

Yes, that is all true, but when asked if we would ever seen Lightning again since her story has ended, the response given stated that as Lightning is an extremely popular character there is always the possibility that she would still show up in other Final Fantasy titles as a guest character. In other words, don't rule the possibility of seeing her again out.

In the end the developers can do whatever they feel justified in doing. It's their game, and their story to tell, and they do seem to enjoy appeasing their fans (not just the ones who need to feel like they're part of an exclusive club and veto everything). Maybe Lightning returns in a future event, maybe she doesn't.. it just seems kind of silly to be so opposed to it.