Hardcore Server Idea

[Kiara1]

I think its a great idea. I've only played wow vanilla before this mmo (or well ive tried other mmos but never got to endgame) and I think its the best mmo ever. I loved how you could die at lvl 1 if you accidentally pulled 2 mobs, if you were a tank you had to farm on mobs with lower level, there was no echo buff or tokens to get free gear. I would defo make a character on a hardcore server or maybe move my tank character to that server. +1!

[Whimsicalalien]

Can't you just do pretty much the same things on a normal server?

[Noahlimits]

Can't you just do pretty much the same things on a normal server?

-You can't make mobs harder
-You can't make more experience needed to level / gain less experience from mobs
-You can't make gil harder to come by

The only thing you can control is turning off echo. But even then, you can't un nerf coil 1-8. There's no way to make it how it was pre nerf.

[NozomiKei]

Not sure why this is getting so much hate; it's not like you would have to play on that server if you didn't want to. I think it's a pretty nice idea myself. I won't ever change servers and I'm too midcore to survive if I did switch to a hardcore one, but I definitely see a place for it.

To all of you scorning him because, oh-em-gee he mentioned another game!!!!!!!!! QAQ Really??? He likes this game enough to play it, spend time outside of the game thinking about it and posting on its forums, and is requesting a hardcore server. What about any of that suggests he doesn't like playing this game? Yes there was mention of another game that implemented a concept that he thinks would be compatible with this game in some capacity; I'm sure it was mentioned with the understanding that readers would recognize it and then be able to assess for themselves how they thought that concept would work with this game. It's not as though he's suggesting that we change anything essential, it's just a server where things are a bit more ramped up for those who enjoy that sort of challenge. He did not propose that we scrap the overall lore and make it set in some cyber future where everyone is a robot and must play with another person at all times or turn into a zombie and dungeons aren't a thing.

[Kuwagami]

hardcore servers in a game where you can't solo anything if not utterly overgeared is an horrible idea.

Not even counting the fact that you basically can't one-shot anything out of 4 man content in this game.

[Tiggy]

No. I don't want them wasting even 1 second on re-balancing the game so that this would work. I'd rather they keep pushing forward instead of wasting time catering to a minority. There are plenty of other games that can give you this kind of experience. Go play them.

[MageBlack]

-You can't make mobs harder - only use grey gear
-You can't make more experience needed to level / gain less experience from mobs - always fight mobs 5 levels lower than you after you reach level 5
-You can't make gil harder to come by - Never use the market wards

The only thing you can control is turning off echo. But even then, you can't un nerf coil 1-8. There's no way to make it how it was pre nerf. - Do the extreme coil

For extra hardcore fun, delete your character every time you die and re roll!

Sure this is a bit more of a manual way to go but if you really want to play "hardcore" you can do it to yourself, no one is stopping you.

Maybe they can use cash shop money to make the server you are hoping for, they used that money to make an EU datacenter so start buying your slepnir mounts!

[Noahlimits]

For extra hardcore fun, delete your character every time you die and re roll!

Sure this is a bit more of a manual way to go but if you really want to play "hardcore" you can do it to yourself, no one is stopping you.

Maybe they can use cash shop money to make the server you are hoping for, they used that money to make an EU datacenter so start buying your slepnir mounts!

Half the fun of doing hard-core stuff is because the game imposes it on you. It's a server where all those things are mandatory. Self imposed rules isn't the same and takes away a lot of the fun factor. Most people who do hardcore servers like doing it for the epeen as well. Nobody can doubt whether or not you did the self imposed things. I'd probably say it's 50-50 for fun factor and epeen.

I think a better course of action for a FFXIV hardcore server would be deleveling/exp loss when dying. Losing your character when you have to rely on 7 other people isn't the best idea.

[Sapphic]

There wouldn't be a population on it to even support the extra dev time it would take to create two different difficulty levels of every content.

Look at Pharos sirus when it first came out, so many bailed or tried to avoid it anyother way becuase it was slightly harder than the other two dungeons.

As another poster mentioned, Savage coil very very few ran it, not enough to justify adding further savage modes of coil (aka FCoB savage), It's harder but gave the same loot. So majority didn't want the harder modes without added incentive of getting better gear. Same would happen with a "hardcore" server. Majority would be "Why bother? when you can run normal and get the same thing".

It may seem a good idea in your mind, but it woulnd't be justifiable to extend exponentially development time for content for a very small number who would use the server.

[Noahlimits]

There wouldn't be a population on it to even support the extra dev time it would take to create two different difficulty levels of every content.

They're already doing this on every raid in 3.0 and onwards.