I would like voicechat

[Yappie]

Can we have integrated voicechat plz? At the moment I use mumble, TS, Skype, ventrillo. Yet, I feel like more than half of the players are ps3 or ps4 users. We could all use mumble or TS apps present on most smart phones. It just seems more to ask of a Ps4 user. It would be so nice to have it integrated for dungeons and raids.

[Stihllodeing]

Seconded. Third party voice chat seems like an outdated concept for any contemporary mmo.

[Skyl1n3]

Nearly the whole population uses either an iPhone or an Android or have acces to a PC/Laptop so there's not really any excuse not to be able to use TS should it be required :P

[VoltaAsura]

They've stated before that they will not do this.

Reason being is that it will then be a requirement for people to be able to play, or join a party - and they don't want that. It will just make things tougher for casual players.

If you want voice chat, please continue to use third party apps because this is never going to change in ARR.



http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-chat-support


Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
Hi all, it’s ‘coming down with the flu’ Yoshida here,

Thanks for the discussion regarding voice chat. I wanted to present my thoughts on the subject, too.

Conclusion
We currently have no plans to implement voice chat into FFXIV, even for Version 2.0.

Level of Communication
I’m also an online gamer when I have spare time, so I use voice chat when playing MMOs, online games, FPSs, and fighting games. However, voice chat is mostly used by the “hardcore players”. In MMORPGs, “chat” is the main form of communication and because it is text based it is fairly simple to use. However, hearing everyone’s voices when you’re communicating amongst a huge group of players can be highly irritating. Risks put aside, I think that the communication level in comparison to chat is a few steps higher.

Pros and Cons
Everyone pretty much said everything already.

The main cons:
There will be times when voice chat will be mandatory for things like instanced raids.
In particular, there is a fear that female gamers will get harassed when the say something and will then want to stay away.
A gap will appear between those that have/don’t have a mic.
As this will eat up more bandwidth, there will be more bandwidth costs.
We will need to create some kind of sound management, like creating an effect so that it's not your “real voice” that is being heard.

The main pros:
It is much faster than chat for direct communication so when playing as a party it is much easier.
If you can get along well with the other person, it is convenient, just like being on the phone.

Alternatives to Voice Chat
There are loads of great alternatives to voice chat such as Skype and Ventrillo. If we don’t officially support it, I think that there will be fewer cases where people will be forced to use it and told things like "come on, just use voice chat for crying out loud!" So for linkshells and what will become the Free Companies, if you can come to an agreement, I think that it would be good to consider using external software for voice chat purposes.

Summary
We will continue to make it so that our FFXIV players can play safely across all regions. Even if we can technically support it, for things that involve communication, we would have to make it official, but I think we would really need to think about this carefully so it won't be a stressful experience. So with that in mind, we will not be having official support for voice chat.

[Raucent]

^
thanks for posting i was about to link that thread lol

[Eye_Gore]

In particular, there is a fear that female gamers will get harassed when the say something and will then want to stay away.

This is sexist. What about the dudes who play female characters getting harassed?

[VoltaAsura]

^I don't get harassed that often (although I definitely have been harassed ingame for being female before), and there are more guy characters who play female characters than you realize.

I think the issue that Yoshi brought up is that girls could be harassed in voice chat just for being a girl, or to be more specific - for having a female voice. I can concur with this as I have witnessed this a few times in voice chat in the past. Sure, some girls have tough skin and can fire right back, but I have seen girls in voice chat refuse to talk because of fear that everyone will know they are a girl in RL. To go a bit further on this, even gay players can be harassed for speaking up on voice chat. I use voice chat a lot, but rarely ever speak up because of my last sentence. Anyone who has ever played with me and has used voice chat with me can tell you...I am very quiet in vent/TS/mumble.


Please don't quote me on the sexist comment, that was from Yoshi himself.

[Stihllodeing]

...snip...Please don't quote me on the sexist comment, that was from Yoshi himself...snip...

Understood and thank you for clearing that up. Was wondering myself. As to the rest of your post....

Not incorporating voice chat into an mmo because of some outdated, sexist, and discriminatory presumptive mindset is behind the times, ignorant, and out of touch.

Unless you live in a country that has laws against homosexuality and laws that clearly discriminate against women, or live in some backwater poedunk neck of the woods full of rednecks and bigotry, these beliefs are outdated.

Homosexuals and women don't see that much more harassment in video games than anyone else anymore. When you take the guilds that are primarily comprised of teenagers and people that are just mad at life in general out of the picture, equilibrium is almost achieved. I would go as far as to say women actually receive special treatment in a "normal" environment or setting.

I've gotten raged on plenty in an mmo. Either because I dropped a controller, had to go afk, or just flat out failed at something. The only difference between what I've experienced and the aforementioned demographic, is that the insults directed at me didn't have some ridiculous discriminatory connotation behind them.

I am not making light of the plight women, homosexuals, bi-sexuals, and transgender people have had to tolerate and fight against in the recent past. I applaud the advocates of change and support their endeavors.

However, people that hate people will hate people even if said people delivered lollipops, puppies, and rainbows to people for no other reason other than they were sad.

Moral of the story, people suck everywhere, don't take two-steps backwards when trying to move forward.

[Eye_Gore]

I think the issue that Yoshi brought up is that girls could be harassed in voice chat just for being a girl, or to be more specific - for having a female voice.

Yeah I used to play alot of Call of Duty back in the day, and this happened almost anytime there was a female voice, though it was CoD so what would one expect.

[Yappie]

Seems like dungeons are getting harder and harder. I love a good challenge as much as the next guy. I'd rather not flood duty finder trying to learn something, and starting a learning party can sometimes take a great deal of time depending on the content. What I would like is a solo or group practice mode where I can skip to certain phases, and set my own dungeon parameters.

I understand a solo mode would be incredibly difficult to accomplish, because of giving away fight mechanics through the movement of NPCs. Which would be giving user dungeon parameters to allocate for commanding NPCs. Not unlike the gambit system to FFXII, but specific to each raid or dungeon.

For example, If enemy skill = "Death sentence" > healer skill = "lustrate". Yet, I would be just as please to see group practice mode, all the same.

Yappers