Why I think now is the best time to gear your gathering classes.

[Morzy]

So. My name is Morzy. I've been gathering since about 2.3, not very long. One thing I've always tried to do is anticipate updates, more specifically, the expansion. As a gatherer, the best way to get prepared is to BE prepared with the best gear and tools.

So while I see some say it's not worth gearing up their gathering classes because you won't make the gil back before expansion... Sure that may be true, but I think the chances of that gear giving you a head start in the expansion as a gatherer is pretty high.

Also tbh in the expansion, either the gear you are hesitating to buy NOW will be either..
A: In demand because of the flood of players, overpriced.
B: Utterly useless and replaced
C: Extremely useful, overpriced.


And it's always been this way, since we got Supra and 3 star nodes.
If you wanted 3 star, you needed a Supra or the new gear to get you there.
If you wanted 450/450 nodes, you needed the melded offhands.
If I want to be ready for 3.0, I'll be ready.

1 star: 370 gathering/332 perception
2 star: 408 gathering/389 perception
3 star: 420 gathering/420 perception
3 star: 450 gathering/450 perception
expansion:?????????????????????????


I have 492 gathering and 468 perception. With a little luck and a lot of work, I'm ready.


If you're on Lamia, hit me up. I need to get back in the gathering groove before expansion, I've been lazy.

[GenJoe]

I agree, basically by gearing up right now, you're getting the cheapest prices on forager's gear and the offhands AND you'll be able to skip on the exorbitant overpriced beginning 3.0 gear which will cost a lot more than they're worth at least for the first few weeks.

[DarthBuzzer]

Even though it's likely worth it just so you can avoid inflated prices of new gear and also to get higher success rate on nodes, I don't think the new nodes will require anything higher than current 2 star requirements. Infact, I would imagine it to be between 1 and 2 star. Think about it, for every expansion that gets released, if you had to get to 3 star gathering just to access Heavensward nodes it would be put off so many new players and gathering would be less popular. That being said, getting a Foragers set is still worth it I'd say.

Since we're on the topic of Heavensward, what do you guys think is going to happen with the new nodes in terms of accessing them? Do you think it will be possible to reach nodes without flying? (I'd really like to start gathering as soon as I log in). My take on it is that unfortunately you'll probably need a 60 battle class to have any hope of reaching 60 miner or botanist unless you wanted to grind out much lower level nodes for a long time.

[Morzy]

I don't think the new nodes will require anything higher than current 2 star requirements. Infact, I would imagine it to be between 1 and 2 star.

Since we're on the topic of Heavensward, what do you guys think is going to happen with the new nodes in terms of accessing them? Do you think it will be possible to reach nodes without flying? (I'd really like to start gathering as soon as I log in). My take on it is that unfortunately you'll probably need a 60 battle class to have any hope of reaching 60 miner or botanist unless you wanted to grind out much lower level nodes for a long time.

I have no idea tbh. While the areas to get the new nodes will be higher level, I hope I won't need a level 50 combat class. I don't know what the difficulty of the new nodes will be, but Ido believe that the gear I have now will help me between level 50-60 because it could mean I don't have to upgrade my gear, at least until lvl 60 BiS.

[DarthBuzzer]

I hope I won't need a level 50 combat class. I don't know what the difficulty of the new nodes will be, but Ido believe that the gear I have now will help me between level 50-60

I'm assuming that's a typo and you meant level 60 combat class? Since you'll need to have a 50 combat class and have to have completed the 2.55 story to access anything Heavensward IIRC. About the gear upgrade, I'd expect 55-57 HQ to be better than current BiS and 58-60 NQ to be better than current BiS. Of course that's pure speculation but it would make sense.

And when I was talking about the 60 combat class requirement I meant that since gathering is most likely going to require flying that means you need to unlock flying for each of the new zones up to level 60. The thing is, even if you don't need flying at all to gather everything - it would still be almost required because it would be so much faster to gather with a mount that moves way faster.

I just really hope Square doesn't lock everything so that you must have a 60 battle class. Right now, you can get 50 for gatherers and crafters before hitting 50 combat class but at the same time it's impossible to get lucis weapons, beast tribe quests, and much higher leve exp without a 50 battle class.

[Morzy]

And when I was talking about the 60 combat class requirement I meant that since gathering is most likely going to require flying that means you need to unlock flying for each of the new zones up to level 60. The thing is, even if you don't need flying at all to gather everything - it would still be almost required because it would be so much faster to gather with a mount that moves way faster.

I just really hope Square doesn't lock everything so that you must have a 60 battle class. Right now, you can get 50 for gatherers and crafters before hitting 50 combat class but at the same time it's impossible to get lucis weapons, beast tribe quests, and much higher leve exp without a 50 battle class.

Uhhh.. ._. There are some areas that can only be accessed by a flying mount?.... I did not know this. Then yeah, I really wouldn't be surprised if there are some nodes locked behind a fly-only area. Just one more challenge as gatherers.

[DarthBuzzer]

Uhhh.. ._. There are some areas that can only be accessed by a flying mount?.... I did not know this. Then yeah, I really wouldn't be surprised if there are some nodes locked behind a fly-only area. Just one more challenge as gatherers.

I'm speculating on whether some mining nodes MUST require flying but there are certainly many areas that can only be accessed by flying as shown in some of the gameplay we've seen.

If there are nodes that require flying, I would hope that at the very least you can do the flying quests for each zone based on your DoH / DoL level rather than A) Complete all story quests for that zone or B) Be of a certain battle class level.

This is one thing that bugged me as beast tribe quests require a lvl 44-ish story quest to be completed, which is silly. It should be available regardless of your story progression.

[Yumi_umi]

Heheh i rather level crafters than gatherers cuz the undercutting for gatherers have the possibility of being plummeted again by bots. Where as crafting relies on gear/skill and some luck which bots cannot replicate.
Also ppl r lazy to craft half the time and have a butt load of gil so ofc they will buy our over priced gear on week 1.
Even if we buy ur over priced materials, it won't even come close to how much we'll sell our stuff for lol

[DarthBuzzer]

Heheh i rather level crafters than gatherers cuz the undercutting for gatherers have the possibility of being plummeted again by bots. Where as crafting relies on gear/skill and some luck which bots cannot replicate.
Also ppl r lazy to craft half the time and have a butt load of gil so ofc they will buy our over priced gear on week 1.
Even if we buy ur over priced materials, it won't even come close to how much we'll sell our stuff for lol

Except if you want to powerlevel crafting in the first few days you absolutely must gather because it will take some time for resources to be put up on the market place.

[LineageRazor]

Heheh i rather level crafters than gatherers cuz the undercutting for gatherers have the possibility of being plummeted again by bots.

Well, if there's one good thing about locking everything in Heavensward behind storyline progression, it's that it should cut down significantly on the number of bots gathering in the new areas. While I'm sure that RMT will soon have storyline progression down to assembly line efficiency, it will still likely take several days to get a bot to level 50 BTN, FSH, or MIN and get them through the Main Scenario so they can get to work flooding the AH with new gathered goods - and every time SE manages to ban one, they'll have to do it all over again.

Legit gatherers should have a grace period of a week or so where they're competing only against other legit gatherers. Which, I suppose, is another reason to make sure you're geared up and ready to go when the expansion hits!