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    Auto-removing deleted names would be a bad, bad idea. Example:
    - You blacklist some jerk.
    - He figures out you've got him blacklisted, but he still wants to troll you.
    - He deletes his account, then restores it.
    - He is now off your blacklist. Whoops!

    I see less danger from auto-removing banned names, but I acknowledge that there may be a danger I just don't see.

    Regardless, there are two things I'd like SE to do to improve blacklist functionality:
    1. Make blacklists easier to "clean" - it's a tedious process, right now, selecting each name one by one, selecting remove, and then confirming that remove. I'd like to be able to, for instance, checkbox a bunch of names at once, and then do ONE remove and confirm.
    2. Indicate, somehow, the reason why you blacklisted someone. While I've yet to find an actual player in-game annoying enough that I felt the need to blacklist them, if I ever did that name would be LOST among the sea of RMTs I blacklist. It would be tough to remember which names are people who are actual active players, and not RMT that were most likely banned in less than a day.

    I don't think that the SIZE of the Blacklist needs to be changed at all. 200 names is PLENTY - if any player ever reaches 200 names of non-RMT players, that player should probably reevaluate whether they're maybe just a wee bit oversensitive to be playing a social game. XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Auto-removing deleted names would be a bad, bad idea.
    And then you re-blist them. There's nothing stopping someone bored or determined enough to do that from rolling max alts on a server to begin with, if they want to chain-pester you. Even assuming that they could stand to drag themselves through the opening CSes over and over again just for that, and that having to repeatedly blist someone was enough to be the most horrible event of your life, they could alter blisting to be an account-level thing where you don't see interaction from any character under an account you've blocked a character from. Add in something like an icon next to a name that's been deleted(and maybe darken the name) to denote that the character is gone but the account is still active.

    We don't even have to get that fancy though. The RMT action notices come alongside a patch of some sort, generally(if not always). Part of the patch could simply be an RMT account list, and once the main game client launches it processes your blist to clean out all the cruft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limecat View Post
    And then you re-blist them. There's nothing stopping someone bored or determined enough to do that from rolling max alts on a server to begin with, if they want to chain-pester you.
    I'm not talking about starting a new account from scratch. Deleting an account does not destroy it. If you delete your account, you can restore it to exactly the way it was before. No lost levels or items, no starting over from scratch with opening cutscenes. SE WANTS you to come back to the game, so they've made it VERY easy to change your mind if you decide to quit.

    The point about trolling from alts is a good one, though. SE should definitely make it an option to blacklist a player's entire account, not just the specific name. Even in the worst case, though, you'd have to blacklist an individual at most eight times under the current system (presuming that they don't own multiple accounts). If deleted accounts were easy to remove from your target's blist, it would never end until your harasser became bored, or the GMs finally dealt with it.

    And, to be honest, deleted accounts really aren't the main problem here. As someone who's only ever blisted RMT, I'd say that less than ten percent of those accounts wind up Deleted, rather than banned. Cleaning up deleted accounts isn't a big deal. Cleaning up banned accounts, though, is currently quite aggravating.
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