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    Nutz's Avatar
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    Monkey Nutz
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    As other people have said, there's no need to keep these names blacklisted. There are problems with the black list though, namely that there are so many spammers that if you every wanted to black list an actual player you'd have to remember their name and be sure not to delete them from the list. We also need some sort of mass removal system for out black lists. Again, something more than just delete all (which would work for me and a lot of others) since you theoretically do want to keep some players on the list.
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    Waliel Hla
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutz View Post
    There are problems with the black list though, namely that there are so many spammers that if you every wanted to black list an actual player you'd have to remember their name and be sure not to delete them from the list.
    Clearly we need a blacker list.
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    Arannon's Avatar
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    Arannon Starflare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waliel View Post
    Clearly we need a blacker list.
    You joke, but yeah that would probably be the best solution...The Blacklist, and then the "RMT List", with its own right click menu command and everything...set it up so that if enough people add someone to the RMT list (Maybe do it so its X many in Y many hours) it sends off an auto-report to check in on the guy and their account.
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    Glazwyb's Avatar
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    Glazwyb Zwelfmerlwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutz View Post
    As other people have said, there's no need to keep these names blacklisted. There are problems with the black list though, namely that there are so many spammers that if you every wanted to black list an actual player you'd have to remember their name and be sure not to delete them from the list. We also need some sort of mass removal system for out black lists. Again, something more than just delete all (which would work for me and a lot of others) since you theoretically do want to keep some players on the list.
    A right-click report RMT option that puts them on a temporary blacklist that clears itself every ~48 hours would work. It's just to hard to report right now - I mostly play from a console and if I wanted to report one, I'd get two more tells before I finished the report.
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    Its not particularly difficult to do but clearing out the blacklist is just another inconvenience on a player whom already has been harassed by this problem. We pay for a service and shouldn't have to be bombarded by advertisements. I know gold selling and whatever scheming ways they go about trying to drum up business within the game is something that will never go away but SE should give us more tools to protect our privacy and peace in good faith. Instant reporting function, white-list only message option, flagging names as banned as mentioned above are some of the things which could help and I wish were made available to us.

    As an aside, I find it silly that tells are blocked during certain content such as dungeons to "prevent players from being harassed" yet it seems perfectly acceptable that we be harassed with them doing literally anything else.
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    Teslo Teaurelin
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    They could make it so that accounts that no longer have a subscription show up as (Cancelled) in the social lists. This would help a lot with those bloated blacklists.
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    Ramo Dan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kio View Post
    Its not particularly difficult to do but clearing out the blacklist is just another inconvenience on a player whom already has been harassed by this problem. We pay for a service and shouldn't have to be bombarded by advertisements.
    I totally agree with you. I apologize for complaining about this issue, but yesterday while watching a cutscene, I had to swtich to message log and check the last messages received to find it an another spam message. Also spammers tend to send long messages that would consume most of display window which may force you to maximize the log window and view message history when needed. Even tho tagging RMT messages is an excellent idea suggested by many but to optimize a service is when there is less input made by the end-user. When we block spammers we are contributing to enforcing SE policies which is acceptable up to a certain extent, but to dedicate time to clean a blacklist and start all over again can be time consuming and inconvinient. I will try this today through my PS3 console and will see how long it will take to clean up a full blacklist (considering the confirmation message for each account).

    If anyone have information of specific macros for such actions, please do mention.

    I was also thinking that these spammers may also be SE customers. I believe they require to pay for accessing the client which is fine, let SE generate revenue from them while they dont enjoy the game and offer all players a one stop for protecting privacy even with an infinite blacklisting options or optimized blacklisting system. (win-win)
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    Glazwyb Zwelfmerlwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by BraveheartRamo View Post
    I was also thinking that these spammers may also be SE customers. I believe they require to pay for accessing the client which is fine, let SE generate revenue from them while they dont enjoy the game and offer all players a one stop for protecting privacy even with an infinite blacklisting options or optimized blacklisting system. (win-win)
    I have often thought that instead of Banning RMT traders, SE should just remove their ability to send tells and not inform them. A short disclaimer could be added to the TOS if needed. That way the RMT traders could continue to pay SE to spam to their hearts content and none of the rest of us would have to see it.
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    Ellatrix Reatori
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    I would just prefer to have blacklist categories much like they added to friend list. This would let me blist RMT and clear out that list on a daily basis while maintaining other players on there who are no longer permitted to wipe parties I build through PF much more easily.
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    Chihaya's Avatar
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    Syanonn Rias
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Asking for a blacklist increase only postpone the problem ;p
    What are you going to do when you blisted 1000 RMT - increase to 2000? 3000?

    Just gotta learn to clean out blist regularly - though I haven't gotten many RMT tell on Balmung lately, was really bad before xmas.
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