Once again screwed in a dungeon!

[Spoekes]

Currently, you get more tomes(soldiery) for the low level daily roulette, as you would get from a expert or high level dungeon run (not roulette).
So, to be tome-efficient without a "dungeon static"(lol), it kind of is mandatory to do it.

I always tank low level roulette and when I spot a not synced player I will pull each and every mob this dungeon has to offer.
Naturally I don't feel the impact of rushing tanks in low level roulette so I would not like to see the "clear = x; done not clear: x/2"-thing to still be able to decide myself if it's worth pulling every enemy in the dungeon - wouldn't wanna do that with all synched 50s.

[Ogulbuk]

Currently, you get more tomes(soldiery) for the low level daily roulette, as you would get from a expert or high level dungeon run (not roulette).
So, to be tome-efficient without a "dungeon static"(lol), it kind of is mandatory to do it.

You make it sound like the reward is just too good for a speed run. This is even more of a case for the full reward to only be granted if you do a full dungeon clear.

[Spoekes]

Yeah it was supposed to deliver that message :P
I, however, do not like the "clear every mob" - idea, because in my experience I get more groups where every1 is synched from 50.
It would also rise new fights of players wanting all tomes (i.E. DPS with longer queues) vs. the speed run fanatics (i.E. Tanks with instant queues).

[Saevel]

If you really are getting kicked for requesting a slower or experience driven run, then you should file a GM report against the offending player(s). Regardless of their motivations for running these dungeons, it is explicitly against the rules to vote kick a party member for that reason.

That being said, you should also note that you don't lose a huge amount of experience by skipping some monsters (half the opening room of AV, or some corridors of DD). You should consider your experience over time, and there are instances where an expedited run can prove to be more valuable to you while also serving that high-level player's goal of reaching the end quickly.

[Meklore]

... That being said, you should also note that you don't lose a huge amount of experience by skipping some monsters (half the opening room of AV, or some corridors of DD). You should consider your experience over time, and there are instances where an expedited run can prove to be more valuable to you while also serving that high-level player's goal of reaching the end quickly.

Trying to justify your opinion of speed running.
Efficiency in amount of exp gained isn't the same as completing a dungeon as it was intended.

Believe it or not, there are a lot of players who want to experience the whole dungeon, not just the bosses.

[Yumi_umi]

If you can spend 30mins + waiting to do a dungeon then certainly you can fate for 30mins while waitin for that dungeon.
So if that dungeon turns out to be a total exp bust then you at least got something done.

[FranSeara]

Sorry OP this is happening to you. When I ran these low Dfs for relic drops, I always play down to the level of my team. This means running the FULL Df for ex, going everywhere for loot and teaching the fights to new players. I'm not in a rush and feel its my job to help leveling player complete the df and gain levels. Being a Vet means putting yourself aside for the good the team. Rushing to clear AV and others with total disregard for your team is RUDE and disrespectful to newer and leveling players. Vets please show some love and goodwill towards your fellow players.

[Duuude007]

Exp players want accelerated dungeon mob kills per hour? The answer is simple.

Entice veterans to help. This creates a twofold benefit:

Queues are significantly shortened, dramatically reducing wait between dungeons.
Veterans know exactly what to kill and how to maximize kills per hour, because they WANT fast clears.
Even when they skip mobs, it is for efficiency, as what is skipped tends to add a great deal of time for little gain.

OP...this thing you want... will actually reduce your exp per hour, not improve it. Consider this, for the love of Pete. Your net gain for getting on the Zodiac gravy-train will not disappoint, if you give it a chance.

[BillyBones]

Conversely, running low level dungeons isn't the only way to get tomes either.
A lot of people are running dungeons for exp and you are cheating them out of it.
How would you feel if you got cheated out of all your tomes?

The system isn't perfect and I know that running the same dungeons over & over is about as exciting as watching grass grow but cheating players out of exp points just to get your tomes is selfish on your part, plain & simple.

OP was talking about the new relic quests, not about tomes. There is absolutely no way to get around the lowlvl dungeons if you want to upgrade your relic, your point is invalid.

[Azumi1]

I send thanks out to those posters that share the love of not speed running when there is unsynced players involved Some posters it seems don't fully read the posts. Point is everyone's so hyped to speed run everything anymore they forget there was a time when they first started the game they wanted the same thing. I started the game over a year ago, but I've never lost sight of it.

Some times I wish SE would turn the game into the way XI was. That'd teach alot of players a lesson.