Once again screwed in a dungeon!

[Azumi1]

To op did you ever try asking them to slow down so you can xp? Or at least say something of that nature at start of run?

Yes, after the Ello's it was the first thing I asked. @5 minutes in I got kicked. (Has happened more then once.)

I have leveled almost every job to 50 now. I have been playing for over a year, and I have leveled more then 1 character. I know how things on here work. As I've seen it all come and go. I myself prefer to use dungeons to level. As dungeons actually teach you your job. Fates and Leve's do not. That's why when you get into a 50 roulette and your tank can't hold hate. It's because all they did was Leve's and Fates, and don't know how to hold hate.

All I'm asking is that something be done. That way speed runners and exp'ers don't cross paths. As for roulettes... Give and extra tomb bonus for killing all mobs. Or like I said. Make a exp option button on the DF page. But don't group item hunters in with exp'ers. It's not good.

[Azumi1]

I have met many new people that complain about this a lot. And it's not a good way to get people to stick around on your game if they feel they're just wasting there time getting screwed out of a exp run that is meant to be fun and help them learn how to play.

And frankly I see it as nothing more then bullying those people. If 3 people are in a dungeon for a item hunt / speed run. and the 4th is there for exp. And they kick that 4th person. Yes that is bullying.

Like I said I have relic. I've played almost every job now to 50. But when I go into a dungeon under 50 I'm respectful to others. And if I'm there alone for a item. Even if one or two others are also. If there is 1 person there for exp. As tank I will pull everything. It's called respect. Something a lot of people now a days don't have. Well that and common sense.

[Ogulbuk]

Not that I have any illusions of this ever being implemented, but I think the ideal "solution" for this behavior is to change the current reward high level players get for running low level content to work as follows:

100% clear dungeon: X tomes
Finish dungeon: X/2 tomes

Word it as you wish, but basically get 2x tomes if you cleared the whole thing, or half as many if you just skipped optional spawns and rushed to the end. It would be up to whomever implemented it to decide if they want to implement such a thing by lowering the current clear reward or just adding a bonus on top if they take their time to clear.

Oh and while at it: if someone in the group is still watching a cut scene mid dungeon, don't let the group proceed into the boss fight!!!

[MrsFluffyButt]

Oh and while at it: if someone in the group is still watching a cut scene mid dungeon, don't let the group proceed into the boss fight!!!

This so, so, so much. When doing Main Scen on my dps or healer, I feel pretty bad whenever a new guy/gal has the story ruined due to speed running tanks or other players who run and pull the boss. Sadly, two people speaking out each time doesn't do the trick.

[ChameleonMS]

100% clear dungeon: X tomes
Finish dungeon: X/2 tomes

I love this idea, I am surprised I have not seen it earlier on these boards. Everybody wins.

[Azumi1]

Word it as you wish, but basically get 2x tomes if you cleared the whole thing, or half as many if you just skipped optional spawns and rushed to the end. It would be up to whomever implemented it to decide if they want to implement such a thing by lowering the current clear reward or just adding a bonus on top if they take their time to clear.

Oh and while at it: if someone in the group is still watching a cut scene mid dungeon, don't let the group proceed into the boss fight!!!

I agree with this whole heartedly.

[Azumi1]

This so, so, so much. When doing Main Scen on my dps or healer, I feel pretty bad whenever a new guy/gal has the story ruined due to speed running tanks or other players who run and pull the boss. Sadly, two people speaking out each time doesn't do the trick.

They should implement it so that the boss will not spawn until all members are across the purple boss area line. There are still people that play on the PS3 and people that wish to watch the story. So yes they will take longer and load slower. If no boss spawns till all members are there, it's no longer a issue. I've seen people get stuck outside the boss fight due to this and have to wait till the party cleared the boss. It's not right. Also, this should be put into place for the elevators.

[Anty]

the whole point of having the items drop in the low dungeon is to have high level people lvl sync so those exping can get a party to do the dungeons. It would take much longer que times if only those exping were in the party. So that's the problem.

Well... that is one of the bad choices SE made to keep older content "fresh" buy forcing ppl via quests to do stupid dungeons all over again, up to a point where ofc they are pissed and want to get it over with.
in my oppinion it will have the exact opposite effect in the long run. I will def. not Q low lvl anymore cause all these forced repetitive content makes me hate the dungeons.

and please no replies like "nobody is forcing you to ... ".

[StouterTaru]

Clearly the only solution is to remove Duty Finder and rewards all together. That way you can spend hours forming up a party of people that want to run the instance the same way you do.

[Ogulbuk]

Well... that is one of the bad choices SE made to keep older content "fresh" buy forcing ppl via quests to do stupid dungeons all over again, up to a point where ofc they are pissed and want to get it over with.

Correct me if I'm wrong, since I am quite the noob to this game (to the point where I am not even sure what tomes are, other than it being some currency used for end game gear,) but are there no other ways to earn those tomes? My understanding is the tome bonus is there to encourage them to do something they would not do otherwise, but that is not the same as being forced. You can always go do your extreme raids to grind those tomes.