Once again screwed in a dungeon!

[Azumi1]

I send thanks out to those posters that share the love of not speed running when there is unsynced players involved Some posters it seems don't fully read the posts. Point is everyone's so hyped to speed run everything anymore they forget there was a time when they first started the game they wanted the same thing. I started the game over a year ago, but I've never lost sight of it.

Some times I wish SE would turn the game into the way XI was. That'd teach alot of players a lesson.

[m3eansean]

I know its just a drop in the ocean to all the others who may feel differently, but when I tank low level as my 50 PLD and people clearly need EXP in the party. I always clear everything, no exceptions.

Pay it forward people, one day you will be in need too.

[Spoekes]

Doing XP run or not is choice of the whole group BUT you can definately blame them for kicking him.

Like the others said, at least it fastens up your queue... try to take it positive

[StouterTaru]

In my personal opinion this needs to be corrected. An easy fix to do so, would be to make the item unatainable through DF with out first having a preformed party. This would solve the issue of people going after the item, and people trying to level crossing.

Or they could make it so you only get exp in a dungeon if you're in a preformed party, that would have the same effect.

[godwin]

To op did you ever try asking them to slow down so you can xp? Or at least say something of that nature at start of run?

[Synestr]

To op did you ever try asking them to slow down so you can xp? Or at least say something of that nature at start of run?

See below:

The moment I ask people if we could do a exp run, not speed run it for a item, I get kicked out of the dungeon.

I haven't seen that happen and sorry to see that it has. As Tank, I go through my roulettes and do full clears when I see sub-fiddies. I am not in the hunt for the items that drop for the relic as I never started it. So guess that helps a select few. If all are fiddy then I SR. I was 48MNK when NIN dropped and my Q times before were like 5 mins. It took a full week to get to fiddy (casual play), a damn lvl and a half. That really stunk. Then I started on NIN as it was my last to get to fiddy. At first it was slow, then they introduced the new relic chain, and the Q times went from 30+ to like 5-8 mins. It is a plus, even if it is at a faster pace and you miss out on mobs, however, you get done faster and can re-Q faster to do it again.

Not the best but it's what there is.

[Ogulbuk]

Not that I have any illusions of this ever being implemented, but I think the ideal "solution" for this behavior is to change the current reward high level players get for running low level content to work as follows:

100% clear dungeon: X tomes
Finish dungeon: X/2 tomes

Word it as you wish, but basically get 2x tomes if you cleared the whole thing, or half as many if you just skipped optional spawns and rushed to the end. It would be up to whomever implemented it to decide if they want to implement such a thing by lowering the current clear reward or just adding a bonus on top if they take their time to clear.

Oh and while at it: if someone in the group is still watching a cut scene mid dungeon, don't let the group proceed into the boss fight!!!

[MrsFluffyButt]

Oh and while at it: if someone in the group is still watching a cut scene mid dungeon, don't let the group proceed into the boss fight!!!

This so, so, so much. When doing Main Scen on my dps or healer, I feel pretty bad whenever a new guy/gal has the story ruined due to speed running tanks or other players who run and pull the boss. Sadly, two people speaking out each time doesn't do the trick.

[Azumi1]

This so, so, so much. When doing Main Scen on my dps or healer, I feel pretty bad whenever a new guy/gal has the story ruined due to speed running tanks or other players who run and pull the boss. Sadly, two people speaking out each time doesn't do the trick.

They should implement it so that the boss will not spawn until all members are across the purple boss area line. There are still people that play on the PS3 and people that wish to watch the story. So yes they will take longer and load slower. If no boss spawns till all members are there, it's no longer a issue. I've seen people get stuck outside the boss fight due to this and have to wait till the party cleared the boss. It's not right. Also, this should be put into place for the elevators.

[ChameleonMS]

100% clear dungeon: X tomes
Finish dungeon: X/2 tomes

I love this idea, I am surprised I have not seen it earlier on these boards. Everybody wins.