PvP rank might need looking at?

[TheFanciestBard]

With glamours introduced awhile back it makes sense people want to have pretty gear. PvP sets are fairly alluring for a lot of classes (Bard/Pld notable) but with FL it seems like you can get a set of armor before you can even wear it. Should rank requirements to wear the gear be lowered? It's just forcing real pvpers to waste time buying suboptimal gear because of rank and forcing pvers/rpers to grind hours to be able to glamour it. Is the intent to make them a trophy? Sure feels that way.

[Nalien]

How are real PvPers being forced to waste time buying suboptimal gear? With the Morale changes, PvP gear isn't exactly the sole pieces of gear you'd want in PvP... If you have i110 PvE gear, it's going to be better than i70 or i90 PvP gear, depending on your stats it might even be better than i100 PvP gear... There really isn't a lot of point buying anything more than i110 PvP...

Other than that, the whole point of it is to force people to grind PvP to earn it. That keeps more people in PvP for longer. They are basically a trophy at this point, since gear progression in PvP has basically been abolished.

[TheFanciestBard]

How are real PvPers being forced to waste time buying suboptimal gear? With the Morale changes, PvP gear isn't exactly the sole pieces of gear you'd want in PvP... If you have i110 PvE gear, it's going to be better than i70 or i90 PvP gear, depending on your stats it might even be better than i100 PvP gear... There really isn't a lot of point buying anything more than i110 PvP...

Other than that, the whole point of it is to force people to grind PvP to earn it. That keeps more people in PvP for longer. They are basically a trophy at this point, since gear progression in PvP has basically been abolished.

Well in a perfect world morale makes pvp gear better than pve in den+FL. Since you get a lot of marks and not nearly enough exp to match it means if you want pvp gear for your rank you buy the i80-90 stuff instead of the i110 gear which is the current top end. It's not the case, so the rank system is just forcing grinds where it shouldn't be.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Well in a perfect world morale makes pvp gear better than pve in den+FL. Since you get a lot of marks and not nearly enough exp to match it means if you want pvp gear for your rank you buy the i80-90 stuff instead of the i110 gear which is the current top end. It's not the case, so the rank system is just forcing grinds where it shouldn't be.

Due to how morale and ilevelsyncing works i100 and i110 pieces have higher stats then i80 and i90 pieces with the same secondary stat ratio.

[Zagam]

Level desynthing.

[PotatoTree]

I think the intent was to make them a trophy. I pvp for the fun of it but others probably do it for the rewards, and the scene might be dead if there was no trophy to go after.

They should just make it so that you can't buy it if you can't wear it. It would remove the confusion.

[ZanzhizExaverion]

Hahahahaha

PVP and stop crying.

[Buff_Archer]

It's really not so bad. Being able to earn Wolfmarks with a cap at 20,000, and spend them on the higher ranked gear you want to wear once you get there, means you can collect a couple of full sets by the time your rank gets into the 30's. When I hit the ranks in the 30's on my way to 40 when that was the max, I didn't have to wait and grind out enough WM's at that point to buy something I wanted.

I saw how nice that was once the rank cap went from 40 to 45, and the opposite became true- I increased ranks and became able to equip the i110 gear much faster than I could buy all the equipable pieces I wanted. I'm at rank 45 and there's quite a few i110 things I'd like to buy but with the number of classes it will take awhile. But if you're lower ranked you can just keep buying all that gear before you get to where you can wear it while earning PVP exp- and that gear will be ready and waiting on you when you get there.

[Sanghelios]

The rank restriction on all i100 animal gear will be removed with 2.5 anyway. So ppl can have thier vanity after 10 frontline games and quit right after.

[ZanzhizExaverion]

The rank restriction on all i100 animal gear will be removed with 2.5 anyway. So ppl can have thier vanity after 10 frontline games and quit right after.

Doubt it. It rips away the reward for actually PVPing.

They only removed the restriction on the I90 gear because it's generic looking gear.