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    Kalias Zorander
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    Low level Healing is Boring

    I've been playing CNJ through the low level dungeons and have found myself painfully bored with the lack of diverse spells available to a low level healer. I'm aware these are brief problems as leveling is only a small portion of the game but it is a portal to introducing new players into the game. If this was my only experience with the game I wouldnt touch healing.

    Is there anyone else out there who can sympathize? I've healed in many games and I feel the progression rate for healing in this game, having to wait until 30 for anything interesting and even further than that for SCH is unacceptable.

    Would it be so much of a change to introduce some of those higher level spells earlier in the game?

    Please don't flame with the suggestions that "L2DPS". DPS isnt the role myself and my fellow healers are signing up for in these dungeons.

    I am hoping to see new life in low level heal progression through the Astrologian but only time will tell.
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    Player radioactive_lego's Avatar
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    Adulate Prose
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    If you have cross-class abilities, use them. I get a lot of kicks out of Blizzard2 and Bio.
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    Spoekes Magica
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by radioactive_lego View Post
    If you have cross-class abilities, use them. I get a lot of kicks out of Blizzard2 and Bio.
    There's only blizz2 and ruin as dps spells to cross class as WHM.
    noone can crossclass Bio O_o why did smb even vote this up? ^^
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    Spark Joy
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    It's boring because you're doing low level dungeons. You're more experienced and out-gear the instance, which makes it way easier to do things. If you want a challenge in your i110 gear and whatnots (I didn't check your gear; I am just assuming), then turn on Cleric Stance and heal like you were when you were level x (where x equals the equivalent required level to enter the instance). Plus aren't all low level things boring? Starting a new game in anything is always really boring for me unless the lore interests me. Final Fantasy Tactics was hella boring at the start, but the flashy skills that one NPC did kept me in. Same with Pokemon.

    As for Astrologians, I'm speculating that they may have some sort of a combo system or a skill that's primed with a card. Since we do have a fair amount of deities in this game, I believe they will be very interesting. Especially when you take a look at what Ninja has brought in as a class. It's super exciting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalias85 View Post
    Please don't flame with the suggestions that "L2DPS". DPS isnt the role myself and my fellow healers are signing up for in these dungeons.
    This is your answer, even if it is to your dismay. It makes healing in general much more bearable in dungeons if you DPS as much as you comfortably can, not only because it's more exciting and stimulating but because you get EXP/cleared much faster.

    The boring, slower alternative is standing around waiting for ... nothing to happen, while mindlessly pressing one button and overhealing your tank when you do heal. Basic healing is super OP in low level dungeons, your Cure 1 will be 30%+ while tanks don't take 30% for 5-10s depending on CDs.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 01-07-2015 at 08:34 AM.

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    Alvis Yune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    This is your answer, even if it is to your dismay. It makes healing in general much more bearable in dungeons if you DPS as much as you comfortably can, not only because it's more exciting and stimulating but because you get EXP/cleared much faster.
    Yup. Not gonna lie, if you're actually trying to optimize both healing and DPS, it is easily the most involved and interesting role to play in low-level dungeons, considering all other classes are basically going "1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2" until things are dead. By the time other classes have more interesting tools, you'll actually be healing.
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    Viviza Viza
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    You're ignoring half your class (DPS abilities) and complaining that your toolkit is too shallow. It's like saying bard adds nothing new to the class because you don't believe in playing songs.

    Much as you don't seem to like DPS, doing DPS is your answer. Developing proper play of your job means taking all of your abilities into consideration and learning how to use them. Practice stance dancing, when to heal, and when to chip in some damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viviza View Post
    You're ignoring half your class (DPS abilities) and complaining that your toolkit is too shallow. It's like saying bard adds nothing new to the class because you don't believe in playing songs.

    Much as you don't seem to like DPS, doing DPS is your answer. Developing proper play of your job means taking all of your abilities into consideration and learning how to use them. Practice stance dancing, when to heal, and when to chip in some damage.
    I agree with this.

    Ignore titles. Ignore "roles." Focus on tools and what's needed for the job. If it turned out BLM tanking something is the ideal strategy, I would do it. If it turned out having 8 WHMs was somehow the most DPS party, I would form this party. Ignore the notion that healers heal, tanks tank, DPS DPS; whatever kills the enemies quicker while still consistent and safe, I'll take that route, and unless you have some role playing agenda, I recommend you play to your tools rather than your role.
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    Purple Rain
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Viviza View Post
    You're ignoring half your class (DPS abilities) and complaining that your toolkit is too shallow. It's like saying bard adds nothing new to the class because you don't believe in playing songs.

    Much as you don't seem to like DPS, doing DPS is your answer. Developing proper play of your job means taking all of your abilities into consideration and learning how to use them. Practice stance dancing, when to heal, and when to chip in some damage.
    Exactly. It's about playing your job (WHM) to its full extent, using all of the abilities available to you, instead of settling to fill a role (healer).

    In the current situation where almost everyone is ridiculously overgeared for most of the content (4 person dungeons particularly), a healer doing nothing else but healing is taking the lazy route. They are literally standing still and doing nothing. For most dungeon bosses and even speedrun pulls the tank will survive with a single regen (or fairy heals) and maybe a couple of heals at most. There is no excuse to stand there bored while the rest of the group is doing their best to be useful.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    It's low level dungeons.

    These are the same dungeons where I spent my time doing nothing but Impulse Drive when I was trying to get blood for blood and outdamaging everyone else using just that one move.

    Just suck it up and get through it, it gets better. All you can do to spice it up is stance dance and throw stones.
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