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    AmenieCimeaurant's Avatar
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    P'tajha Aboh
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    Healers tanking low level dungeons

    So, I've noticed a new trend lately.

    I'll be in a low level dungeon (Tam-Tara/Toto-Rak, etc) and healers aren't letting tanks do their job. The healers are going ahead of everyone, pulling everything and not letting tanks take aggro. This isn't a case of over-healing and taking away aggro, they aren't even letting tanks try.

    I understand speed-running and I'm completely fine with it. I'm DPS so it doesn't really affect my job too much BUT when tanks get pissed and then refuse to do anything, it gets a bit frustrating. I've always been yelled at when I accidentally take away a tank's aggro, so I don't understand why healers are trying to do this. We aren't dying or anything, so I guess it doesn't really matter too much. Just kind of curious.

    Any insight?
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    FranSeara's Avatar
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    Fran Seara
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    Not sure why a healer would do this. I know, I've tank'ed low Dfs beore on heals but that was because the group didnt have a tank and I was level syc'ed from lv 50. There's no reason with a tank there. Just silly healers.
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    Yumi Umi
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    I do it cuz my golden rule is if no one dies and enemies die then idc how the tanks feel cuz ik for a fact dps don't care cuz all they want is for stuff to stand still and die fast. They don't care if ur hp while tanking stays at 80%+, they just care if u get it done clean and fast.
    If tank gets pissed off etc then let them, these dungeons can technically be solo'd * takes a while/ lots of kiting * , duod or trio.
    I also tell them they can afk till we reach boss so you'll at least be somewhat useful in the run.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    I do it cuz my golden rule is if no one dies and enemies die then idc how the tanks feel cuz ik for a fact dps don't care cuz all they want is for stuff to stand still and die fast. They don't care if ur hp while tanking stays at 80%+, they just care if u get it done clean and fast.
    If tank gets pissed off etc then let them, these dungeons can technically be solo'd * takes a while/ lots of kiting * , duod or trio.
    I also tell them they can afk till we reach boss so you'll at least be somewhat useful in the run.
    Bad healer and bad player alert! If you want it to go faster, then cast Stone and Aero on the mobs if you're WHM, and Miasma and Bio if you're SCH, don't just grab every mob in the dungeon you fool.
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    MrsFluffyButt's Avatar
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    Al'tani I'rieseith
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    I do it cuz my golden rule is if no one dies and enemies die then idc how the tanks feel cuz ik for a fact dps don't care cuz all they want is for stuff to stand still and die fast. They don't care if ur hp while tanking stays at 80%+, they just care if u get it done clean and fast.
    If tank gets pissed off etc then let them, these dungeons can technically be solo'd * takes a while/ lots of kiting * , duod or trio.
    I also tell them they can afk till we reach boss so you'll at least be somewhat useful in the run.
    Are you for real?
    Really?
    Way to help new players learn their jobs.
    EVERYBODY, GIVE THIS NOOB YOUR COMMENDS!
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    Ellatrix Reatori
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsFluffyButt View Post
    Are you for real?
    Really?
    Way to help new players learn their jobs.
    EVERYBODY, GIVE THIS NOOB YOUR COMMENDS!
    Except... pulling and keeping the run going at a brisk pace IS helping new players learn their jobs.

    Why does everyone hate efficiency so? Or is fighting one small, weak mob pack at a time so exciting?
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    Meklore's Avatar
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    Acrophes Lockehart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    Except... pulling and keeping the run going at a brisk pace IS helping new players learn their jobs.

    Why does everyone hate efficiency so? Or is fighting one small, weak mob pack at a time so exciting?
    Please explain how that is helping new players LEARN their jobs. I really want to hear this.
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    Al'tani I'rieseith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    Except... pulling and keeping the run going at a brisk pace IS helping new players learn their jobs.

    Why does everyone hate efficiency so? Or is fighting one small, weak mob pack at a time so exciting?
    Speed running a low level dungeon isn't normal, ESPECIALLY when it comes to helping new players.
    How about's you crawl back to your silly lil' speed running hole?
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    Razai Sylvain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    I do it cuz my golden rule is if no one dies and enemies die then idc how the tanks feel cuz ik for a fact dps don't care cuz all they want is for stuff to stand still and die fast. They don't care if ur hp while tanking stays at 80%+, they just care if u get it done clean and fast.
    If tank gets pissed off etc then let them, these dungeons can technically be solo'd * takes a while/ lots of kiting * , duod or trio.
    I also tell them they can afk till we reach boss so you'll at least be somewhat useful in the run.
    Oh my! How da hell did I miss this one. I mean seriously poured my coffee down the drain as this was all the caffeine and laughter I needed for the rest of this week, hell month even... I'm REALLY shocked you have been playing since 2013 with this type of nonsense you spewed in this comment. Perhaps your main SHOULD be Goldsmith and NOT a healer class or any other for that matter outside of crafting/gathering...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    Healer is doing this because the tank is slow at pulling and they want to get through the dungeon faster. Simple.
    What told you this, your crystal ball?

    No, seriously there COULD be a ton of reasons, but don't assume that this is the reason. And from the OP, that is not the impression I get.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    Except... pulling and keeping the run going at a brisk pace IS helping new players learn their jobs.

    Why does everyone hate efficiency so? Or is fighting one small, weak mob pack at a time so exciting?
    This post is completely wrong. Stick to your static coil teams dear because teaching new players their jobs is most certainly not your forte. A HEALER playing TANK, is in no way shape or form efficiency. That's called setting bad examples for the new players. It's showboating or trolling at best. Use. Your. Brain...
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    Spoekes Magica
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    I do it cuz my golden rule is if no one dies and enemies die then idc how the tanks feel cuz ik for a fact dps don't care cuz all they want is for stuff to stand still and die fast. They don't care if ur hp while tanking stays at 80%+, they just care if u get it done clean and fast.
    If tank gets pissed off etc then let them, these dungeons can technically be solo'd * takes a while/ lots of kiting * , duod or trio.
    I also tell them they can afk till we reach boss so you'll at least be somewhat useful in the run.
    wow. just wow in every negative way possible.
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