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  1. #11
    Player
    Spoekes's Avatar
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    Spoekes Magica
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    Odin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Out of your perfect scnarios there are such where a tank might not have hit one or two mobs of a big pull with the same number of Flash/OP like the others.
    Of course Quelling Strikes is not mandatory, but there are plenty scenarios where it will help to prevent fail and my real question is:
    why would you even come here argue for not using it? Like really its literally for free.

    "Not needed I just go all out if fails: tank is not worth his salt." hooray
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  2. #12
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    Synestr's Avatar
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    Synestr Ashbringer
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    I cannot speak for all but most "veteran" BLM's have the skill and know when to use it. It's not hard to touch it with your mouse or button push combination. Hell if it is too hard to remember to use it, macro it to Raging Strikes (since I know we all KNOW how to use that one :-))...or something.

    Though, sometimes, even with QS up, I make friends. Just that kinda guy I guess.
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  3. #13
    Player Sanguisio's Avatar
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    Sanguisio Alorea
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    Phoenix
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    The hardest thing a BLM has to is manage aggro lol
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  4. #14
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    Mercutial Zenos
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I bit the bullet and leveled Archer (not Bard) to 34 just for quelling. No offense, it's my least favorite class... but it just had to be done. Absolutely mandatory if BLM's want to go full throttle (and not just with double and triple Flare). Burst damage can cause so much chaos at times.
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  5. #15
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    Ellunavi Sevald
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    Sargatanas
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    The only time a BLM should USE Quelling is if they outgear the tank. If you are losing hate to a BLM that is equally geared as you then you should consider your pull. I've seen a BLM spike 1000 DPS on a pull and a PLD held hate just fine with Sword Oath on. No Quelling was used.
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  6. #16
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    Synestr Ashbringer
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Why not use it? Equal gear or outgear, why run the risk of breaking up the group with attracting the mobs. If you have it might as well use it. It does NOTHING to your DPS, only ensures you can kill all without the threat of being beat on and allows the tank to maintain control. Not using it is a disservice to your party and the run.
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  7. #17
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    Rui Ooshima
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by dcgregorya View Post
    "In fact, good BLMs should be already pre-casting before the tank uses their enmity pull move."

    Tomahawk and Shield LOB have a 3x aggro multiplier. If you're working with low level tanks who don't have their tank stance yet (DF Roulette) then you really, really shouldn't do that. I had some [insert insult here] BLM doing this to me from the wrong side of the room when I was trying to shield lob pull a face in Qarn NM onto the platform...he kept pulling so the face would die before I could get him over to the platform. Was really annoying - you don't get shield oath until level 40 on a PLD.
    Actually, BLM is pretty shit below level 50. I brought BLM into AV/DD for the Zodiac Weapon drops farm, and I laughed at myself
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  8. #18
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    aisustrong's Avatar
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    Aisu Strong
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Actually, BLM is pretty shit below level 50. I brought BLM into AV/DD for the Zodiac Weapon drops farm, and I laughed at myself
    every time I've done a DD speed run it's gone fastest with a blm
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  9. #19
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by aisustrong View Post
    every time I've done a DD speed run it's gone fastest with a blm
    SR is a little different though, get 2 BLM and pull all the mob to the 1st boss room and AoE down for XP, if that's what you mean.

    But nonetheless, F2 damage isn't stellar and the real essence in BLM's AoE power is actually Flare, which is a level 50 skill :/
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  10. #20
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    Argyle Darkheart
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Synestr View Post
    It does NOTHING to your DPS
    Unless you use it after an instant cast, the Quelling Strikes animation is going to cut into your potential casting time. The only instant cast a BLM would use early enough for Quelling Strikes to matter would be Swiftcast Fire III, but that's a waste of Swiftcast if you're going to be Flaring any time soon.

    You can argue that the DPS hit doesn't matter, but it's definitely there.
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