Quelling Strikes

[Synestr]

Why not use it? Equal gear or outgear, why run the risk of breaking up the group with attracting the mobs. If you have it might as well use it. It does NOTHING to your DPS, only ensures you can kill all without the threat of being beat on and allows the tank to maintain control. Not using it is a disservice to your party and the run.

[Argyle_Darkheart]

It does NOTHING to your DPS

Unless you use it after an instant cast, the Quelling Strikes animation is going to cut into your potential casting time. The only instant cast a BLM would use early enough for Quelling Strikes to matter would be Swiftcast Fire III, but that's a waste of Swiftcast if you're going to be Flaring any time soon.

You can argue that the DPS hit doesn't matter, but it's definitely there.

[Skeith-Adeline]

If the tank is similarly geared as I, and I pull, then it is the tanks fault. Granted, I could use quelling, and there is no real reason for I not to, but I should be able to trust similar geared tanks to know their roles.
For AoE pulls, if the BLM has Quelling, then they have no reason not to use it. I do get really, really annoyed when I pull from the tanks main target with a Fire 3 before AoEing. Also, it's best to use Quelling after first Fire 2 if you're triple flaring, so tank should try to hold further.

[Starvald]

My favorite are the ones that shoot a second after i shield lob onto a mob.....and what is even greater about it, they don't even hit the one I shield lob onto but some random other mob in the pack. Love those!!! >.<

Quelling strike wouldn't help much there as this is more a stupidity problem than anything else.

I don't really have hate problems as I just flash the hell out of everything but I know that it can be tight when a BLM is present...especially on lower level content when you don't have all hate skills available. But I suppose it really comes down to how smart the DPS are you are running with. If they cannot wait for the mob names to turn red then I would advise you to just let them tank it. I have provoke which I use once.....if it happens several times it is their mob and no longer my problem.

[Kisshu]

As a BLM I 99% of the time only use quelling on AoE pulls. The last 1% is at the start of bosses if the tank can't hold hate(below ilv80 weapon)
I try to time my quelling on double/tripple flare so at least one of those is with quelling/raging strikes

When I tank it really depends, when going for big pulls normally not a problem. Only problem is if you need the mob/boss to stand in a specific space and you only have lob/tomahawk for it

[Viviza]

If a DPS really wants to tank that badly I just let them.

[Enclavex]

If a DPS really wants to tank that badly I just let them.

This is my tanking philosophy. Seems to work well enough.

[chidarake]

as tank is running use quelling strikes and the problem goes away as you'll start thunder 2/3 straight after, with it hitting as tank hits its first target, then fire 3, either tank has at least 2 hits by the time fire 3 hits and are on there way to generating more hate on the whole group or single target.. blm should not have to hold back at all.

of course you have to correctly identify the tanks target as he is running to precast thunder, but my guess is closest enemy to him/her 99% of the time.

I say this as a blm main who tanks more I think lol.

if the tank cant hold hate from that point its on them, heck a blm shouldn't even need quelling strikes at that point but at least there doing there part to help the tank.

[Ceodore]

Annoying DPS never seem to get it. They aren't the center of attention. If they want to screw with me, then I'll let them die. Let them leave, I don't care, DPS are a dime a dozen, and I can put the offer of a dungeon run with me as tank in my FC or LS chat and watch it get flooded with people scrambling to come play who will actually respect and follow lead. The healer isn't there to hold the DPS' hand, and just about every healer I meet will happily disregard an annoying DPS and play along with what I ask of them, to allow the annoyance to just die, get bored, and leave. Often, in dungeons, I run DPS trinkets anyways, and if a DPS wants to be an idiot, I reduce the pull number for less damage input and drop into Sword Oath to boost my own DPS. I can still hold agro without issue, pick and choose my targets easier and let the target the annoying DPS is highest on go. I get the healer to use Cleric stance more and have them target only the mobs I want to keep on me with single target attacks. If a DPS wants to troll, two can play at that game. Their choices then are to either to play properly, die, or do nothing and get bored. Once the vote kick function becomes available, we use it and replace them without a second thought.

[Skeith-Adeline]

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Err, uhh. You mean if a DPS doesn't use quelling on an AoE pull, or on single target pulls? You do know that Quelling won't be up on every trash pull right?