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    Confusion about Growth curves for DoL and DoH

    We will adjust the growth curve for Disciples of the Land, tweaking the rate of development...
    The growth curve for Disciples of the Hand, in particular, is in need of attention, and we’ll be taking a scalpel to that also.
    I was a little confused by these lines in the Letter from the Producer. The first was in the table, and second in the text below. Does this mean that both growth curves are being re-done? I'm confused because if both are getting the overhaul, then why weren't they both in the table? The text at the end sounds more like a recap.
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    ya I thought that as well, but I took it that they were going to do both, as DoL/H seems to fall in the same category for alot of things
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    By growth curve, I interpret it as the amount of activity required to rank through and how involved it is.

    Right now, the trip from about R30-R50 is a terrible, terrible grind. I'm guessing that this is what they are looking at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catapult View Post
    By growth curve, I interpret it as the amount of activity required to rank through and how involved it is.

    Right now, the trip from about R30-R50 is a terrible, terrible grind. I'm guessing that this is what they are looking at.
    R30 to 40 is actually very fast now, especially if you use your regional leves (10-15k total per leve with aspect). Even 40+ is faster than it used to be prior to 1.18 until you hit ~R48-49, then its about the same. Basically you get ~10% per lvl of node over your level, so you typically get 50-100% more SP per swing. With no SP fatigue (you still damage everything after 250 harvests per day), you can really grind the levels up quickly.

    I think they actually mean to nerf SP rate on DoL now. Or maybe speed things up in the 40+ range due to lack of Grade 6 nodes. We'll see I guess, but I've found SP grinding on DoL to be very good/fast now compared to before.
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    Wasn't the table this time a list of things for 1.19 and nothing beyond there?
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    Its probably increasing the amount of exp (because thats what it will be after 1.19) some crafts give and possibly leves, because 1-20 is easy, and from what I have heard (only craft is 19 GLD) 20, maybe 25 or 30+ take forever, to level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Its probably increasing the amount of exp (because thats what it will be after 1.19) some crafts give and possibly leves, because 1-20 is easy, and from what I have heard (only craft is 19 GLD) 20, maybe 25 or 30+ take forever, to level.
    30+ is not really that bad. in the 30's i can get 3-4 levels in a day if i took the time to collect enough mats. in the 40's it's still a non issue to get a rank a day on doh already.
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    I think what vision was refering too is what are they changing DoL or DoH as there are 2 contradicting statements, one saying DoL and the other refering to DoH.
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    You guys need to go back and read that statement in the letter, it's says Disciples of the Land.

    The growth curve for Disciples of the Land, in particular, is in need of attention, and we’ll be taking a scalpel to that also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog View Post
    You guys need to go back and read that statement in the letter, it's says Disciples of the Land.
    it didn't, ninja fix.
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