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    LionKing's Avatar
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    The point is to get your name out there. Of course they are free to get the next advertiser, but with time, reputation is also important as well. Also, with this advertising board, you can also have it on while you are offline for example instead of having to online to advertise. You can group it with like when you are instance, the customer want it ASAP,etc...How about in open world? Sometimes I just wish to be able to party to do things like Spirit Bonding,Fate atma,etc... At the moment, all I can do is either staring at my screen for 60 mins or go do something else while sometime have a peak at a screen. Though all I want to do is to play the game...and having advertise up at the same time.

    It is called Party finder for a reason, to look for people to form a party, not to advertise your business. People been misuse it just because it is the most efficient way to get your business out there to people just because there is no other choice .
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    You speak about getting your name out there and reputation. Where does your reputation come from, if you aren't there to complete the orders?

    Reputation comes from being able to respond to queries and requests promptly and able to deliver the goods promptly as well. Throwing your name out there simply doesn't suffice. People will always remember and speak of those crafters who have consistently delivered what they promised. I speak from experience myself.

    Open world contents: Technically you can start a SB party, put up a PF and says spiritbond and your crafting service at the same time. Or SB with your FC/friends in a party and put up PF and advertise your service. As a WHM you can SB solo as well although not as fast in a party. Atmas can be farmed solo; being in a party doesn't increase your chances of getting an Atma. The requirement for gold is so low these days for FATEs, solo participation isn't a problem.

    You definitely have choices but it is whether you can think of it and whether you are willing to do. The devs never said PF cannot be used for ads and until they say so, it is not being misused, period. They write the rules, and if there's no rule that says we are fouling it, we aren't. Plus I believe that there are higher priority problems and issues out there that they would want to resolve first. This "issue" is really one of the smaller problems that most of the player base live by. SE won't be spending time making changes or things that doesn't really give a tangible benefit to the majority of the player base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    This "issue" is really one of the smaller problems that most of the player base live by. SE won't be spending time making changes or things that doesn't really give a tangible benefit to the majority of the player base.
    Doesn't mean it shouldn't be suggested.

    -Talking to an NPC while on chocobo.
    -Auto dismounting chocobo when going into cities.
    -Changing teleport names to easily understand where you're going (Fun Fact: I actually recommended this in Beta, but then they did the opposite for Gridania, then much later fixed it in a future patch).
    -Sort function.
    -Etc.

    I'm sure there's a huge list of "minor inconveniences" that have been addressed. Things can always be better and should be discussed, and it seems like the devs do in fact listen to what people say occasionally.



    These on their own separate pages:


    The Binding Coil of Bahamut - Turn 4
    The Whorleater (Extreme)
    The Second Coil of Bahamut - Turn 4
    Ramuh (Extreme)
    FATEs - Coerthas
    Hunts
    Shiva (Extreme)


    4STAR «culinarian» LFW! Get discounts off MB prices!
    WTB Inferno horn for 1.2m
    Selling Jet Black Dye, Pure White Dye
    Selling T5-T9 // Ex Primals. E x c e l l e n t prices!
    ★★★★ Need something crafted? 4 star crafts
    Selling Promise of Devotion (3m Platinum/1.5m Gold)
    Selling Rank 8 FC w/ medium house in Lavendar Beds





    OR

    The Binding Coil of Bahamut - Turn 4
    4STAR «culinarian» LFW! Get discounts off MB prices!
    WTB Inferno horn for 1.2m
    The Whorleater (Extreme)
    Selling Jet Black Dye, Pure White Dye
    The Second Coil of Bahamut - Turn 4
    Ramuh (Extreme)
    Selling T5-T9 // Ex Primals. E x c e l l e n t prices!
    ★★★★ Need something crafted? 4 star crafts
    Selling Promise of Devotion (3m Platinum/1.5m Gold)
    FATEs - Coerthas
    Selling Rank 8 FC w/ medium house in Lavendar Beds
    Hunts
    Shiva (Extreme)



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    Quote Originally Posted by kidvideo View Post
    Jeez, who cares? Does it harm your game play in any way?

    To be clear, if it does you got probs.
    Yes? Less people that are actively trying to clear, less people to actually form a party with. More people who might not be skilled enough to actually clear the content due to getting carried. And promotes potential gil buying, which promotes gil sellers, which promotes bots.
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    Last edited by zeth07; 01-06-2015 at 03:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeth07 View Post
    Yes? Less people that are actively trying to clear, less people to actually form a party with. More people who might not be skilled enough to actually clear the content due to getting carried. And promotes potential gil buying, which promotes gil sellers, which promotes bots.
    I'm an old-school MMORPG player; I'm quite used to crafting being as much a part of the game as actual combat, so people buying their way to a win doesn't really jar with me. In SWG you took your dancer/musician/doctor/scout with you on 'raids' even though they didn't contribute in any actual fights.

    I think housing promotes gil-buying more than merc runs do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeth07 View Post
    Doesn't mean it shouldn't be suggested....
    I undersatnd your point.
    But I foresee even if they make a dedicate ads board (or sorting/list/group), ppl will just put their ads on both places or only on the most viewed place.
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    "Party Finder" not "Raid Finder" or "Whatever-I-Prefer Finder"

    You can want to find a party to do Shiva Extreme.
    You can want to find a party to sell your goods.
    You can want to find a party to sit around in Mor Dhona and stare at the rocks.

    Still, a SEPARATE advertisement board would just be super. If you could pin the messages for a longer time, that'd be great, too.
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    Last edited by Kat_Manx; 01-05-2015 at 04:47 PM.

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    @-@ I never said this would be their top priority or even a major issue in need of SE attention. It is merely a wishful thinking or just something SE can think about, so there really no need to get you hyped up. Sure we can do all that but there is still some limit to we can really do with the current PF. It definitely can be better but for now, I don't really want fixing PF is SE top priority, period.
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    Nera Mistdancer
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    The very least they could do would be adding a new category to the PF to sell/craft, as that's specific enough to deserve it. And then let us select which categories (plural form) we want to see at once, so that we can filter what we are not interested in. Problem solved: we don't have to bother seeing things that we don't want to while still being able to see multiple categories at will, and with no more server resources needed (you just change the query, or it can even be sorted out client side).

    As you all can see there's ways to fix this annoyance, and I'm sure that the devs could even improve it or find better ones that still work that way. You can say whatever you want, but some of the uses that the PF feature is being used for are things that I'm sure that weren't intended when it was made, and it needs to be sorted out. Because it can be annoying sometimes, yes.
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    Why would anybody even look at a window dedicated advertisements? They're annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SekhmetM View Post
    Why would anybody even look at a window dedicated advertisements? They're annoying.
    This is why eBay and Craigslist are such huge failures.
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