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  1. #21
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    Zeth Hiryu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
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    I think you are really missing my point.

    Let's say everything that involves killing SOMETHING / doing actual content, is Group A.

    GROUP A:
    - Duty Roulette
    - Dungeons
    - Guildhests
    - Trials
    - Raids
    - Quest Battles
    - PVP
    - FATEs
    - Treasure Hunt
    - ADD Hunts category
    - ADD Spirit Bonding category


    Now, everything else that's not that stuff is Group B

    GROUP B:
    - Buy/Sell specific item/minion/runs
    - Crafting services
    - Recruitment
    - Whatever


    To get to A, you go to Party Finder like normal: Party > Party Finder = Do Content
    To get to B, you go to lets say: Social > "Open Market" = Do other stuff that isn't content.
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  2. #22
    Player Shioban's Avatar
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    Shio Ban
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    Twintania
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeth07 View Post
    Group A vs Group B


    You're still missing the point that it's an unnecessary change.
    Even on the most populated servers the party finder isn't THAT congested, you simply hover over or toggle-through the listing. It should take you no more than 30+ seconds to decipher what content is available.


    Separating it won't really solve any problems, you can still provide a comment on anything, therefore people will choose "The Howling Eye (Hard)" and use the comment to type "4-Star Weaver Service Available"


    Lowering the visibility of thing is a major no-no. People don't want to separate things into multiple finders;

    > Service Finder (Crafting/Mercs/Items)
    > Content Finder (Dungeons/Trials/Coil)
    > Recruitment Finder (FC/LS/Statics)

    That's a 1/3 of the visibility, RIGHT THERE. No-one wants that, it's nice to see everything in one place. I often see things and think "Oh I can do that" "I want that" or "I feel like doing that", separating them only generates more effort/problems.

    The game has NO other bulletin system to advertise things (Crafting/FC's/Linkshells/Items/Services/Requests/Hunts), and there's a reason for that. The party-finder serves as that function for EVERYTHING.
    It's a MINOR inconvenience that you might have 5-6 party-finders that are labaled as 'Crafting/Merc Runs/Static Recruitment)




    tl;dr

    The vast majority don't mind it.
    Just because YOU don't want to see it, doesn't mean no-one else does.
    Separating ANYTHING from the party-finder lowers it's visibility, no-one wants that.
    You will inevitable see content you don't want to see/do in the Party Finder. You have to just deal with it.
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    Last edited by Shioban; 01-05-2015 at 03:20 PM.

  3. #23
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    Ellatrix Reatori
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeth07 View Post
    I think you are really missing my point.
    Except you don't have a point. This thread was done on the first reply, which was this, since you seem to have missed it:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    No, because that would decrease visibility.
    Everything else that has followed is just you demonstrating that you didn't bother clicking the other buttons on the PF, which includes the Search button to narrow criteria.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shioban View Post
    It's a MINOR inconvenience
    I think there have been other minor inconveniences that have been addressed, like changing teleport names. Why is it so bad if something else can increase convenience with a change?

    There have been countless borderline useless suggestions on these forums, and something that can serve a purpose is somehow bad? Increasing the size of butts is more important?
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-done-about-it!

    Yea, that makes sense.
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  5. #25
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    Is it really that hard to just ignore it, scroll down, and move on? You know just like facebook newsfeed.
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  6. #26
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    Luna Hoshino
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    How many things are on the PF in your server that makes scrolling down through them an issue? Even on Gilgamesh (which is one of the biggest servers), we rarely have more than 25 things total up in the PF at once.
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  7. #27
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    Rui Ooshima
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    This thread is essentially everyone VS OP.

    Thread closed.
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  8. #28
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    Let view this party finder from another perspective,shall we? Op issue asides, I find out that PF sometimes can be very inconvenient, time likes,say for example, I want to advertise for my crafting business, I literally have no choice but sit there and wait to re-new the ad every 1 hour. I can't join in a pt while the ad is up, can't run any instance because the ad is still there. In short, I can't do almost anything while advertising,making that can be a pain in the ass. Of course, I could shout the ad but it is not as effective as using PF. I wish in the future,SE can put up a true "Advertising board" where people can advertise for their service in a period of time (Either fee or no fee applied), while they still can go do other things, like Primal,Duns and not wasting time waiting and wasting time.
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    Last edited by LionKing; 01-05-2015 at 04:00 PM.

  9. #29
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by LionKing View Post
    Let view this party finder from another perspective,shall we? Op issue asides, I find out that PF sometimes can be very inconvenient, time likes,say for example, I want to advertise for my crafting business, I literally have no choice but sit there and wait to re-new the ad every 1 hour. I can't join in a pt while the ad is up, can't run any instance because the ad is still there. In short, I can't do almost anything while advertising,making that can be a pain in the ass. Of course, I could shout the ad but it is not as effective as using PF. I wish in the future,SE can put up a true "Advertising board" where people can advertise for their service in a period of time (Either fee or no fee applied), while they still can go do other things, like Primal,Duns and not wasting time waiting and wasting time.
    Then again, if you are advertising for your service but 90% of the time you are engaged in instances, what's the point then?

    When customers sees an ad and wants something, they want a quick response. Sends a tell to the seller and expect a speedy reply, reach a deal and commence the commission and receive the goods ASAP. If they need something but you are un-contactable, most likely they will move on to another seller.
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  10. #30
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    The point is to get your name out there. Of course they are free to get the next advertiser, but with time, reputation is also important as well. Also, with this advertising board, you can also have it on while you are offline for example instead of having to online to advertise. You can group it with like when you are instance, the customer want it ASAP,etc...How about in open world? Sometimes I just wish to be able to party to do things like Spirit Bonding,Fate atma,etc... At the moment, all I can do is either staring at my screen for 60 mins or go do something else while sometime have a peak at a screen. Though all I want to do is to play the game...and having advertise up at the same time.

    It is called Party finder for a reason, to look for people to form a party, not to advertise your business. People been misuse it just because it is the most efficient way to get your business out there to people just because there is no other choice .
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    Last edited by LionKing; 01-05-2015 at 04:27 PM.

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