Can someone give me an in-depth explanation why Summoner is arguably the worst DPS?

[Viridiana]

For real or troll? xD

Being a huge burden to heal is a glaring difference.

SMN have not been below in DPS for patch after patch. And DRG in no world got fixed quickly.

27 October to 9 December. That was how long DRG was a burden in FCoB. That's a day over 5 weeks. Unless you're going to try to count all of SCoB or something. Meanwhile, SMN has been a burden for the last, oh, I dunno, 17 weeks. That's over three times as long. And Kona, you're still ignoring the fact that i130 gear was always going to solve DRG's being a burden.

Editing to add in times for WAR and BLM:

WAR was in a bad spot from launch to 2.1. 20 August to 14 December is 16 weeks. That's faster than SMN if SMN were fixed with tonight's maintenance. BLM was lacking in SCOB from 26 March to 7 July. That's less than 14 weeks; which, again, is faster than SMN would be if SMN were fixed tonight. And by comparison, DRG took 5 weeks. So, yes, compared to the other two, DRG was fixed quickly. And if SMN has to wait for 3.0 it'll be a bit over 20 weeks to fix one class.

[ChaozK]

27 October to 9 December. That was how long DRG was a burden in FCoB. That's a day over 5 weeks. Unless you're going to try to count all of SCoB or something. Meanwhile, SMN has been a burden for the last, oh, I dunno, 17 weeks. That's over three times as long. And Kona, you're still ignoring the fact that i130 gear was always going to solve DRG's being a burden.

Editing to add in times for WAR and BLM:

WAR was in a bad spot from launch to 2.1. 20 August to 14 December is 16 weeks. That's faster than SMN if SMN were fixed with tonight's maintenance. BLM was lacking in SCOB from 26 March to 7 July. That's less than 14 weeks; which, again, is faster than SMN would be if SMN were fixed tonight. And by comparison, DRG took 5 weeks. So, yes, compared to the other two, DRG was fixed quickly. And if SMN has to wait for 3.0 it'll be a bit over 20 weeks to fix one class.

DRG had been noticably weaker than MNK (roughly 8% which is comparable to the situation of SMN and BLM now) since launch of the game, thats 1 and a half years.
Everyone knew that DRG was weak, it only became really apparent with the introduction of NIN.

The fix wasnt quick at all. Lets hope it doesnt take them that long with SMN.

[Viridiana]

The fix wasnt quick at all. Lets hope it doesnt take them that long with SMN.

Fact is that DRG was doing fine up until FCoB. Like, world second T9 completion. By comparison, neither DRG nor SMN were in the top 5 groups for T13 (NIN was, though). It became a serious issue with FCoB, not before.

[scarebearz]

Fact is that DRG was doing fine up until FCoB. Like, world second T9 completion. By comparison, neither DRG nor SMN were in the top 5 groups for T13 (NIN was, though). It became a serious issue with FCoB, not before.

Dragoon in comparison to Monk for SCoB, was a bigger Percent of DPS difference than SMN compared to BLM Now.

[Viridiana]

Dragoon in comparison to Monk for SCoB, was a bigger Percent of DPS difference than SMN compared to BLM Now.

And yet, world second group. We blaming the content not being tuned or what?

[scarebearz]

And yet, world second group. We blaming the content not being tuned or what?

A Dragoon who is good at their class could clear T9 fast, so what?

A Good SMN in a top-end team could have been world first for T13, it would not change a thing.

The important part for those teams, would have been learning the mechanics first, for players of that level, the dps would not be a major issue once they knew the fight.

[Viridiana]

A Dragoon who is good at their class could clear T9 fast, so what?

A Good SMN in a top-end team could have been world first for T13, it would not change a thing.

I doubt it? I mean, maybe they could have replaced the BLM, but I doubt they could have been world first at that point. I mean, they didn't even make it into the top 5 groups.

Edit:

The important part for those teams, would have been learning the mechanics first, for players of that level, the dps would not be a major issue once they knew the fight.

Seriously? World first was literally as Gigaflare was going off. DPS matters plenty at that point.

[ShinryuReishiki]

By comparison, neither DRG nor SMN were in the top 5 groups for T13 (NIN was, though). It became a serious issue with FCoB, not before.

World first T13 was on November 2, and the same group cleared it with SMN on November 4, day of the first weekly reset. That's still two days before the world third clear on November 6. It's also worth noting that world first T10 and T11, and world second T12 were with a SMN as well.

[Sequora]

The big problem with SMN that is clearly obvious is MP. Other jobs don't have to dumb down their rotations for resource management. That being said, I am hoping for some big changes in the expansion. I would at the very least like some kind of minor fix to at least address problems with MP.

[ChaozK]

Fact is that DRG was doing fine up until FCoB. Like, world second T9 completion. By comparison, neither DRG nor SMN were in the top 5 groups for T13 (NIN was, though). It became a serious issue with FCoB, not before.

Well i can see your point but it wasnt really the case that DRG was doing fine but rather that there was a lack of alternatives. The only alternative for the 2nd melee slot was to bring another MNK, which was superior but fairly unattractive for most groups due to loot distribution, hence why it was only used by high end FCs.

The moment they implemented an alternative with NIN, DRG got dropped almost instantly.