Can someone give me an in-depth explanation why Summoner is arguably the worst DPS?

[Aikaal]

Then explain it to me. Blm goes though fire phase to dish damage, then ice phase to replenish mana to repeat the process. Having a larger mana pool on blm Mage means squeezing out an extra fire spell during astral fire phase. And while it affects your incombat mana regen (pre umbral ice stacks) the amount you regen with umbral ice stacks makes that amount negilable.

Fire I is 306 Potency. It also has 40% chance to give you an instant cast free Fire III that is 468 potency. So if you had more Fire I in your rotation, you do a lot more damage. In your ice stance, Blizzard I is 170 Potency and Thunder I is 240 Potency. If BLMs were to have the same mana pool than SMN which is 3k, I'd barely have mana for cast 4 Fire I in my rotation. I'd be useless.

You could say I prefer to spend as much time in my Astral Fire stance and the least time in my Umbral Ice stance but I,d want to have full mana in my Astral Fire.

[Romsca]

Fire I is 306 Potency. It also has 40% chance to give you an instant cast free Fire III that is 468 potency. So if you had more Fire I in your rotation, you do a lot more damage. In your ice stance, Blizzard I is 170 Potency and Thunder I is 240 Potency. If BLMs were to have the same mana pool than SMN which is 3k, I'd barely have mana for cast 4 Fire I in my rotation. I'd be useless.

You could say I prefer to spend as much time in my Astral Fire stance and the least time in my Umbral Ice stance but I,d want to have full mana in my Astral Fire.

I may not like blm playstyle much, but I just have a feeling that kind of rotation is not ideal. Relying on a proc with 40% chance just save some mp bothers me for some reason. Wouldn't just casting fire 3 till you have to switch to blizz 3 and thunders net a more constant dps with a higher average over hoping you get a firestarter? Idk, I never liked blm and only leveled it for swiftcast so don't take me for an authority on it.

[Skeith-Adeline]

I may not like blm playstyle much, but I just have a feeling that kind of rotation is not ideal. Relying on a proc with 40% chance just save some mp bothers me for some reason. Wouldn't just casting fire 3 till you have to switch to blizz 3 and thunders net a more constant dps with a higher average over hoping you get a firestarter? Idk, I never liked blm and only leveled it for swiftcast so don't take me for an authority on it.

Nooooooo no no. I won't get into much, but I hate having to correct BLMs in DF instances who do this.

[scarebearz]

Nooooooo no no. I won't get into much, but I hate having to correct BLMs in DF instances who do this.

What about the ones who Spam Bliz 3, you ask them why and they are very proud to tell you "I never run out of MP like this" xD

[Bigcat9715]

I may not like blm playstyle much, but I just have a feeling that kind of rotation is not ideal. Relying on a proc with 40% chance just save some mp bothers me for some reason. Wouldn't just casting fire 3 till you have to switch to blizz 3 and thunders net a more constant dps with a higher average over hoping you get a firestarter? Idk, I never liked blm and only leveled it for swiftcast so don't take me for an authority on it.

I've just fully leveled my BLM, and let me tell you, if you have 3 stacks of Astral fire you don't want to waste your time and mp on casting magic that cost 1058 a shot when you can get it for free. Plus you have a overwhelming chance of getting a fire 3 every rotation. You can get it a couple of times every rotation. BLM's dps is ridiculous.

[SomnusNemoris]

I may not like blm playstyle much, but I just have a feeling that kind of rotation is not ideal. Relying on a proc with 40% chance just save some mp bothers me for some reason. Wouldn't just casting fire 3 till you have to switch to blizz 3 and thunders net a more constant dps with a higher average over hoping you get a firestarter? Idk, I never liked blm and only leveled it for swiftcast so don't take me for an authority on it.

I have always had a certain distrust toward people who can not grasp the simple concept of Black Mage. If you have a feeling about that rotation not being ideal, I think it is time from now on to once more, evaluate your own opinions, not only on this matter, but also on all the things you said all over this thread. SMN utility isn't great, at all. The argument still stands that it is not unique purely situational (only benefit when other people are either incompetent or dead).
I also don't buy what the guy said about only having a 20DPS increase from HA do DW weapon. If I am not mistaken, SMN damge scales a bit higher than BLM? On my BLM it was around + 40DPS, maybe even more. Although the scaling in comparison to melee is pathetic. Melee always seem to benefit a lot more from getting extra WD, since the beginning of this game.

[scarebearz]

I have always had a certain distrust toward people who can not grasp the simple concept of Black Mage. If you have a feeling about that rotation not being ideal, I think it is time from now on to once more, evaluate your own opinions, not only on this matter, but also on all the things you said all over this thread.

Romsca does not play BLM, therefore his/her opinions on their main class are not valid? lol

To be fair I think most people new to BLM, would at first find the concept behind it strange, I know I did anyway.

I know next to nothing about tank/melee rotations, but I do know my main class fairly well.

[SomnusNemoris]

Romsca does not play BLM, therefore his/her opinions on their main class are not valid? lol

To be fair I think most people new to BLM, would at first find the concept behind it strange, I know I did anyway.

I know next to nothing about tank/melee rotations, but I do know my main class fairly well.

Romsa can not grasp a simple conceptual class and therefore must revaluate his opinion* Don't try to strawman me. To end the utility debate, both classes have pretty sweet utility. The only difference is that BLM is unique in its utility and therefore in my opinion, slightly better because out of my experience, it is therefore the most useful. No one has any superior utility.