Quote Originally Posted by Romsca View Post
Well how much more different do you want the job to be from the class? Isn't paladin just gladiator with shield oath and hallowed ground? Isn't white mage just conjurer with a few extra abilities? If summoner was a tank class instead of damage would that be enough of a difference? Scholar is a dps>healer conversion so of course it's going to be different. You asked what summoner is. I said what I think it and arcanist is. Right now, bar the "interview" with Yoshi that's floating around, we have no "official" word that SE is doing anything regarding summoner. Players have been calling for redesigns of abilities to the whole class. I have been asking for some tweaks that are simple and fast to make so we wouldn't have to wait for an expansion with new abilities that might just be band aids to the summoner issue.

As for tri-disaster, does damage from our dots break it? Are adds in boss fights immune to it? 20 second bind could help keep an add off a healer till a tank can pick it up. I've thought about swift casting it in a few SCoB turn 2 runs when the OT isn't on top of the first three adds. If it was instant cast instead it could be a very good crowd control utility for summoner.
Here is the problem with the gladiator and conjure analogy. The Gladiator is an initiate of the Paladin and the Conjuror is an initiate of the White Mage. The Evoker is the initiate of the Summoner not the Arcanist. The Arcanist is the initiate of the Saboteur.