Quote Originally Posted by Sanguisio View Post
Give up arguing with the likes of Vivi, Dwill etc. They will never see the whole picture.

Hence why I am done replying in this thread, would have more luck getting blood from a stone
What are you even talking about? I have admitted on certain points that Xisin is absolutely correct. Why can't you people ever comment on someone's argument instead of someone? The sign of a perverted mindset, I might add. I have given good arguments for a Summoner buff.
The argument that still stands is that Summoner is outshined in the damage department by quite a large margin. I don't believe it is 12% with procs, but I do believe it is around 10% with procs.


You How can you argue against a small damage buff when BLM has better ST, AoE and burst. How can you even claim that Summoner would be fine?
And always this utility crap. No one brings a Summoner because of their raise, or because of enhanced virus. No one gives a shit because almost no Summoner has to do it anyway.

I think it should give Xisin some room to think that even though Summoner has all this uptime, it still gets outdamaged. Your argument about uptime is useless as long as the damage is still lower on pretty much every single front or every single fight. The perfect example on endgame is that SMN during earth shaker and megaflare and all the other stuff that makes you move or unable to attack should give Summoner a distinct advantage. But tell me a Summoner that has ended T13 with 540 DPS, you'll find no Summoner that does that. So yeah, uptime, great argument.
Are you seriously suggesting that in T5 the utility is that you could soak damage with your pet? Thanks a lot for that utility, SE! Never mind that you get shat on in Shiva and shat on in T10 and shat on in other turns with your pet. Never mind that.