Can someone give me an in-depth explanation why Summoner is arguably the worst DPS?

[Wizarus]

It's hell if you happen to die. Melees have Bard support and BLM can just resume normal rotation after a few seconds. Have fun summoning pet + reapplying and maintaining Dots with that amunt of mana restored and no hope of bard support. Sometimes you might as well stay dead.

[ViviAnimus]

That's actually also quite true. Summoner gets punished so hard for disconnecting or dying. You have to resummoner your pet with a predetermined MP poll. Basically doing awful (the most afwul of them all). You can argue that if a Summoner stays alive at least, he should push good numbers. What's the point of you're like the lowers of the 'pure' DPS and collapse even more when you makes a mistake in comparison to other classes?

[Sunako]

That's actually also quite true. Summoner gets punished so hard for disconnecting or dying. You have to resummoner your pet with a predetermined MP poll. Basically doing awful (the most afwul of them all). You can argue that if a Summoner stays alive at least, he should push good numbers. What's the point of you're like the lowers of the 'pure' DPS and collapse even more when you makes a mistake in comparison to other classes?

Game should not be balanced by that how many mistake you do. Game should be balanced the way you do not do mistakes. And i think healers and tanks get even bigger punishment if they disconnect since that can wipe whole party.

[Osmond]

Summoner gets punished so hard for disconnecting or dying. You have to resummoner your pet with a predetermined MP poll. Basically doing awful (the most afwul of them all). You can argue that if a Summoner stays alive at least, he should push good numbers. What's the point of you're like the lowers of the 'pure' DPS and collapse even more when you makes a mistake in comparison to other classes?

You do have a point that if a summoner dies, it'll be very difficult to get back on DPS. You get back up, you force to use aetherflow to re-summon your pet so you back to no MP. You pretty much forced to use energy drain to reapply your DoTs, but even then you have to wait another min to aetherflow again to get MP back so you basically have to stop DPS for awhile to get MP back to normal numbers. Something like that have to be re-worked at some point to stay on par w/ other DPS cause the other classes can get back to their DPS numbers pretty quick.

[Dextro]

You get back up, you force to use aetherflow to re-summon your pet so you back to no MP. You pretty much forced to use energy drain to reapply your DoTs, but even then you have to wait another min to aetherflow again to get MP back so you basically have to stop DPS for awhile to get MP back to normal numbers.

This is all assuming Aetherflow is up the moment you raise; if you died shortly after putting it on cooldown.... have fun

[ViviAnimus]

Not dying is not a mistake and it is also sometimes not even in your own hands. Disconnect is mostly not in your hands, dying because of lack of healing is also not in your own hands. If you think healers and tanks should get punished for disconnecting, then you are just not thinking right. The raid is punished enough, probably by wiping in Final Coil. Why would you create different measurements in punishment for something you can't even control? That's just simply stupid, no?

[Puwarh]

Die can be suck for every one and far worse for SMN. As I play around and die a lot due to the delay to server/ lag SMN (get a lot of improvement when move to a better server) did the slowest and most annoying to get back on there feet although you shouldn't die in the first place.

Somehow people tends to not try to learn to understand how SMN do their damage when run together even in the higher content dungeon I, as a SMN and not other DPS job, did get scold from time to time how low my damage was. So, right now, until something was done to SMN I think I gonna enjoy other class and hope they do not leave SMN to rot away. Still have many things to do anyway.

[Akiza]

other DPS jobs are easier to use then Summoner because they are more direct and are able to sustain DPS numbers while the Summoner's damage has a hard cap and declines rapidly after 4 min.

[Ardan]

other DPS jobs are easier to use then Summoner because they are more direct and are able to sustain DPS numbers while the Summoner's damage has a hard cap and declines rapidly after 4 min.

What the hell does this even mean? Are you referring to melee? BLM has infinite MP and the melee DPS most likely have a BRD to sing Paeon for them when they need it. SMN is generally the only one left out for songs because it's either more MP for the SMN, or having the melee run out of TP. WHM and SCH will almost never run out of MP if they manage their cooldowns properly.

By the way, being a melee is far more difficult than being a ranged DPS that is out of range, able to damage an enemy, without being damaged. Start making sense please.

[Havenchild]

By the way, being a melee is far more difficult than being a ranged DPS that is out of range, able to damage an enemy, without being damaged. Start making sense please.

Except if your not playing a SMN in melee range, that's something equally wrong. The best SMNs face the exact same amount of danger.