[DEVS] SCH Pet Idea 3.0

[ZhycranaDranix]

OK I know you guys might be tired of me posting about SCH blah blah blah I love the job.

Pure speculation and suggestion and even theory. OK:


As you know the SCH job consist of two pets Eos and Selene a healer buff and a damage buff pet respectively. SMN has three pets Garuda(Magic Damage, I equate her to Eos likeliness as the counter part for SMN) Ifrit the physical damage dealer (Selene helps the physical dps out more as the other magic dps the truly benefits is BLM) ...SMN also has a third pet Titan which is the tank egi for the SMN built to absorb DMG

So here where the speculation comes in: Eos and Selene are both created after Greek Gods with the respective names, here's the catch as there are three primal pets, Eos and Selene also had a brother named Helios(God Of The Sun) -->>> Follow me here

So we have our Healer pet, Utility pet, but where's our Titan ? Where is our mitigation pet ?

Warriors of Light , Guardians of our realm I present to you: Helios the mitigation pet

Of Course it would come with the Embrace heal as both of the other pets do for ideal for his moveset:

Fey Flare- This Move is pretty much a Solo Galvanize , can be used without the Obey command and applies when party members are above 80% only. I know you can control Eos/Selene to embrace above 80% but wouldn't you like in your pets down time and without wasting mp for your pet to slowly be adding shields to random players while you wait for bigger damage to come ? <-- this a must have please. Potency: +120 Shield no heal , Stacks With Aldo/Succor sigh imagine the solo heals ...Above 80% it will Fey Flare, below it will Embrace the target.

Fey Spot-Since I would rather not have a Sacred Soil II take up one of our new abilities (I'd rather it be a trait) here is a command about the size of a solar flare that mitigates up to 5% damage also adding a HoT(potency of whispering dawn does not stack with rouse though) while having a up time of 15s Stacks With Sacred Soil Mitigation as well. Talk about awesome right ? 1 min GCD

Last but not least
Solar Winds-OK All my SCHs out there we love the AoE wide Fey Illumination, but what if we gave it a edge a twist I give you- Solar Winds, it is a AoE ability boosting crit rate by 15% over the next 12s on a Two Min GcD, SCHs would love this ability furthering the ''Tanking'' aspect of this pet by giving us more proc aldo , better galvanize and also increasing my thought of Fey Flare move. Rouse Also strengthens this ability but Devs can come up with how that plays into it.


Again obviously these are made up but by a very skill SCH who loves the job and can't wait for it to expand and just wanted to throw out some new ideas, if any fellow Vet SCHs would like to chime in I would love to see what the community thinks of this....



EDIT UPDATE 1/6/2015:

Sigh the lore speculation as you stated would be a problem but then you definitely reverted back to my statement to where I simply posted okay give her a third entity as you said


''Of course, Square-Enix could easily create some cheap lore that would change the current lore with a simple "oh we found another tablet" or "hey Lily has more memories undiscovered!", but will they really?''

Yes, you claim the story has come to an end but we will be getting new job quests in the upcoming patch which will be required to obtain our new ability/traits , can we not agree on that ?

If so then why couldn't there be a twist in lore seeing as that's a viable way of upgrading a class specializing around the usage of pet actions etc etc.

Now if they add new abilities to the current pets I would love that too as a option. Like I said in my OP this isn't to just jump out and say oh this is what I want blah blah blah , I merely wanted oh those are cool ideas/ or oh those suck and then you give me your SCH abilities, forget the lore crap

HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS EXTRA COOL JOB BETTER ? AND SINCE WE ARE GETTING NEW ABILITIES WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE THEM TO BE ? <<<----clear enough

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

not this shit again

[ZhycranaDranix]

I would've rather have the silent treatment

[Valmar]

So if this was a thing, why would SCH's use any other pet?

[ZhycranaDranix]

All other pets are still viable ?

Fey Illumination for Eos is a irreplaceable boosting WHM cures and Sch/Eos along with the boost from Rouse
Fey Covant is still a bigger buff to magic defense than the extra shielding , which people would still need for Nerve Cloud/Gigaflare etc etc
Whispering Dawn is a AoE HoT which wouldn't require you to be grouped as the new mechanic above does

Selene- Is constant dps increase every 30 secs for mage/ or physical dps

So this pet does not outclass the others to make them obsolete I find them very well balanced, it's going to be tough to implement just like the AST ;SCH and WHM work great together already but one of them will need to do something just a slight bit less than the AST or the AST would need to bring something more to help the party to be an option. Same works for the pets: Some endgame users don't touch Eos until like P3 T12 , some like me prefer Eos and the extra heal boost for my SCH dps spaces, so see everyone has options

[jojober]

I think what Lyrica meant with his/her comment was that this issue has been beaten to death repeatedly. The idea of Helios has been brought up myriad times. What most scholars don't understand, and you just might fall into this catagory, is you do NOT have two fairies. You have one fairy. One fairy, her name is Lily, is tied to your soul stone that you inherited to become a scholar. Lily has two aspects to her: Eos and Selene. So in order to have another fairy, SE would either have to add a third aspect to Lily. Or SE would have to give us a whole new second fairy, which would contradict the lore they have set as having one fairy per soul stone.

Don't get me wrong, as a fellow Scholar, I would love to have more options, even though I think Selene and Eos are enough when used properly. But the lore of the job is going to make it a little more difficult than it would be to add another egi for summoner.

[ZhycranaDranix]

Ok so One fairy per soul stone and give her another aspect- Helios ?

[Ceodore]

Or... or... you could just get good. Eos and Selene already allow a scholar to pump out healing potency beyond that of Cure II on a single target with only the MP cost of a Physick/Cure. Better fixes would be to the class itself really. (I've been labeled a hypocrite because I HAVE complained about the fairy AI in another thread before, and I retract my statements there, the fairy is completely fine) The changes I'd like to see on Scholar is to boost their AOE healing by just a little. On Succor, have it apply a shield on a target that doesn't have a shield like normal, but to make it where two scholars aren't just shielding over one another, on targets that already have a shield, apply no shield, and a boosted healing, perhaps a boost of about 100 potency. It would be less than what the shield would be worth but at least the skill would no longer feel so weak.

[Valmar]

Or maybe Add to the shield at a 50% potency?

[ZhycranaDranix]

Or... or... you could just get good..

T13 SCH pushing p4 easily doing better than a lot of SCHs in the game up to this point(not bashing any others maybe they don't have a raid group capable idk but if I were ''bad'' I think being ousted from a raid group pushing T13 would have been happened by now) .

Also this is pure speculation not that I ''NEED'' it its simply a speculation/want , hence the title maybe you can not be a jerk people do this all the time ffs. We are getting 10 new levels for expansion I can't speculate on an ability ? I'm pretty sure all the people who make youtube videos speculating need to get good too huh , and all the thread makers about abilities and jobs etc etc ?

And since when you as a SCH pumped out over 4-5k on a single Physick ? Cure II > Physick , Fey Illumnation + Physick Max might get you 2k-3.5k with a crit. CURE II Can Crit upwards 4k-5k even and that's not even with fey illumination , when you state facts just try and back it up with solid proof there . A Double Succor , since I need to get good who's bringing two SCHs to the party ?