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  1. #21
    Player radioactive_lego's Avatar
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    Adulate Prose
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    Gladiator Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    Okay so a couple things/suggestions:

    1. ...
    This (upvoted).

    I'd also add, that in many situations you'll be a walking band-aid for 2/3 of the fight. It isn't till a group of mobs gets thinned down that you might chime in with some damage spells (this may never happen on a dungeon boss). Once you're geared for speed runs, and have Holy and Benediction at your disposal, it will change a bit.
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  2. #22
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    RogueJawa's Avatar
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    Rota'sae Teibryn
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    Faerie
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    Conjurer Lv 45
    I appreciate both the support and the feedback.

    Thanks guys.
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  3. #23
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    Kinseykinz's Avatar
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    Isagael Rose
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    Sagittarius
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    Botanist Lv 100
    One thing I did think of though...reading your FI, F2 etc kinda approach to healing/dding.... You might want to look into the <tt> macros for skills like Virus and your DD spells. Target of Target macros will make spells cast on whatever your tank is hitting (assuming you have your tank targeted). I personally, don't use these macros (because I prefer to manually target what I plan on attacking), but I know many healers do use them/enjoy them. Also, you can do the same thing with cures <tt> (if you have the mob targeted, it'll spit the cure onto whoever the mob is attacking/has aggro'd at that moment).

    This isn't macroing CS, but maybe NOT having to switch your target between the tank and the mobs might make things easier for you.


    Just a thought.
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    Mikita's Avatar
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    Mikita Nightsong
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    Anima
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    Just a small thought, but if you feel you want to or should be DD'ing a bit as WHM, maybe just throw out a few attack spells when you can -without- turning on Cleric Stance? At least until you get more comfortable with it. Of course your DPS will be lower, but it's better than nothing and there is also less risk of things getting out of control and people dying.

    I only stance dance when I am comfortable with the party... either they are people I know and trust, or if it's a random group, after the first few pulls and I see the tank is not squishy and the DD's are not getting themselves into trouble. Otherwise, I stick to my primary role as healer and keeping the party alive first and foremost.
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  5. #25
    Player radioactive_lego's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    <tt> macros...
    The logical counter to this is combining DD spells/skills "over" healing. This is mostly a hotbar space saver, but simplifies things as well. Examples:

    1.
    /ac "Stone"
    /ac "Cure"

    2.
    /ac "Aero"
    /ac "Regen"

    Since you can't cast dmg spells on PCs (outside of PVP) and you can't heal enemies, you'll always get the spell you desire on your target, regardless of whether that target is friend or foe.
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    Last edited by radioactive_lego; 01-04-2015 at 11:52 AM. Reason: Typo

  6. #26
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    aisustrong's Avatar
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    Aisu Strong
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by aisustrong View Post
    I enjoyed whm far far more when I switched to controller
    I'll put up a video of my hotbar, see if you like it, I find it pretty comfy
    almost forgot about it but here it is
    whm controller setup: http://youtu.be/IxkUFxoTwkw
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  7. #27
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    Divine_Intervention's Avatar
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    Divine Intervention
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 61
    Speaking as a WHM main , i play only monk on off class when i'm really bored, I do like to stance dance now and then, but a few factors come into it:

    1) Can I keep up with the healing needed on the main tank/other players easily?
    2) Have I placed cleric stance and my dps abilities somewhere very comfortable and natural to get to them, without detracting from the comfortable access of my heal abilities?
    3) Are we in a very high damage phase, or is the tank slightly undergeared or underskilled?

    There are a few other factors , but those are what I can think of off the top of my head. If the answer to any of those is no, I don't dps. And I don't allow anyone to make me feel uncomfortable for not dpsing. My role is a healer. I won't as the paladin to use his (godsawful) cure. I won't ask the summoner to rez (although it's nice when they do!). I expect everyone to play a role to the way they enjoy it/the best of their abilities, and won't expect anything less of myself.

    Now, that aside, if you do want to stance-dance, don't macro it mate. Your gonna want to have control instantly of when it's on and when it's off. The advice about hitting it before it's off GCD is a good one. But yeah, you want to know you can get straight back into full healing output instantly, which isn't really possible if it's macro'd up. Or, not possible that i know of or am comfortable with xD

    Hopefully that helped a bit, good luck to you mate!
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  8. #28
    Player radioactive_lego's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by aisustrong View Post
    almost forgot about it but here it is
    whm controller setup: http://youtu.be/IxkUFxoTwkw
    Similar to mine in many ways, but with some notable differences. I see you use L+R for a lot of your core skills, which is cool. I opted to use mine for rarely used but super useful ones; LB, Food, Sprint, a spare CS (because it doesnt always turn on/off).

    whm controller setup, in use: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RnSj15P_g7U

    You can plainly see I DO have CS macroed, but its a simple macro.

    /chotbar change 6 [this is the hotbar with all my DD spells on it]
    /ac "cleric stance"
    /tenemy

    Changing back out of CS is not macroed. It needs to be somewhat mashable.
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    Last edited by radioactive_lego; 01-05-2015 at 12:31 AM.

  9. #29
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    aisustrong's Avatar
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    Aisu Strong
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by radioactive_lego View Post
    Similar to mine in many ways, but with some notable differences. I see you use L+R for a lot of your core skills, which is cool. I opted to use mine for rarely used but super useful ones; LB, Food, Sprint, a spare CS (because it doesnt always turn on/off).

    whm controller setup, in use: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RnSj15P_g7U

    You can plainly see I DO have CS macroed, but its a simple macro.

    /chotbar change 6 [this is the hotbar with all my DD spells on it]
    /ac "cleric stance"
    /tenemy

    Changing back out of CS is not macroed. It needs to be somewhat mashable.
    not fond of your targeting
    but i guess thats a preference thing

    i have left stick as assist target, and up and down on the dpad to go through party list

    really the only time my setup gives me any issue is when i try to stoneskin someone while running, thinking of moving it but not sure where to
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  10. #30
    Player Sanguisio's Avatar
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    Sanguisio Alorea
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    Phoenix
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    cleric queues afaik or at least on the PS4 it does, so make sure you only press it once when youre done.
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