Speed Running Is Getting Out of Hand

[Synestr]

Siding with seaf here. Q'ing as Heals in Ex Dfs with speed runners sucks, If you have just came home from Work/school and wanna just run a nice relaxing DF.

I see what you are saying, but if you want a relaxing run, do High level or Low lvl. EX currently is for quick tomes due to everyone wanting to get done asap for them to NOT see their item drop, lol. I don't like it either, but I do it. On tank, on heals on DPS. I get my daily bonus quicker so I can move on to other stuff.

What was said earlier though about heals controlling the pace as well is spot on. I do my best to keep up, but if I can't, first to notice is the tank and adjustments are made.

[Yumi_umi]

Haha reminds me when tanks go gung ho with a monk and a nin.
Tht awkward moment when tank dies and you as a healer go,
Uh oh.. Peaceeee itttttt!
Then everyone runs around like headless chicken till everyone dies.
Its worse when ppl run back to base spawn and make the mobs aggro non stop to freshly spawned players. Think brayflox hm failed speed runs XD.

[BobbinT]

For my case, I actually could hardly stand doing slow pace for dungeon runs. Kinda stresses me doing things too slow. Having to redo AV & Dzemael for zodiac farm alone are tiresome process for me. ^^;

And don't really under-estimate DD jobs, they can SR too as long as they knew what to do. I had a dual nin (with me being one), and we can pull it off just fine. ^^

Still, I do respect ppl who actually wanted to do normal runs. Doesn't mean I enjoyed it though. ^^;

[Black91CRX]

I believe this was me lol... This is vaguely familiar and I had a blast with whatever team I was on. Your name looks familiar too!

Not that I am a "fresh" 50 healer, I but my ilvl was 100 WHM.
If this was not you, then I ran it with another tank that I believe was in Allagan gear, but I swear it was your name. I too was there for Zodiac weapon.

Nah, the guy I was speaking of was definitely a fresh 50. AF geared and less than 3K HP. However, you probably did run with me another time. Ive spammed Copper a bunch lately ^^

[Darske]

Personally, I think its more a problem of player courtesy more than anything else. When I tank, I always ask if the group is more comfortable with large or normal pulls. And if they say they dont want to run fast, then I take it one group at a time.

So I'm surprised that so many people dont listen to their group. Especially their healer, if they tell you they need you to slow down youd best listen...

[Zedd702]

I see what you are saying, but if you want a relaxing run, do High level or Low lvl. EX currently is for quick tomes due to everyone wanting to get done asap for them to NOT see their item drop, lol. I don't like it either, but I do it. On tank, on heals on DPS. I get my daily bonus quicker so I can move on to other stuff.

What was said earlier though about heals controlling the pace as well is spot on. I do my best to keep up, but if I can't, first to notice is the tank and adjustments are made.

Doesn't matter the roulette to be honest this is really common amongst even the lowest of dungeons, mostly roulettes. There's already a thread similar to this to this one already "Do tanks always rush"

Nah, the guy I was speaking of was definitely a fresh 50. AF geared and less than 3K HP. However, you probably did run with me another time. Ive spammed Copper a bunch lately ^^

Oh ok. I still believe that day I ran with you as tank.

Personally, I think its more a problem of player courtesy more than anything else. When I tank, I always ask if the group is more comfortable with large or normal pulls. And if they say they dont want to run fast, then I take it one group at a time.

So I'm surprised that so many people dont listen to their group. Especially their healer, if they tell you they need you to slow down youd best listen...

I 150% agree and preached this in the thread I quoted above.

[FranSeara]

Personally, I think its more a problem of player courtesy more than anything else. When I tank, I always ask if the group is more comfortable with large or normal pulls. And if they say they dont want to run fast, then I take it one group at a time.

So I'm surprised that so many people dont listen to their group. Especially their healer, if they tell you they need you to slow down youd best listen...

Thank you for saying this. From a healers point of view. I always ask my groups to go mid speed. I feel this is a nice middle of the road speed and I can heal,the tank lives and the dps can dps. Wiping 5 times is a waste of time.

[Yukariko]

Personally, I think its more a problem of player courtesy more than anything else. When I tank, I always ask if the group is more comfortable with large or normal pulls. And if they say they dont want to run fast, then I take it one group at a time.

So I'm surprised that so many people dont listen to their group. Especially their healer, if they tell you they need you to slow down youd best listen...

thank you from another healer.
I can heal anything I have unlocked in this game, coil, extreme primals, I even prefer to heal most coil turns and most primals, but sadly I no longer heal dungeons with random players, cos while I can heal a speed run, I hate it. it's just too damn stressful to have it all put on me.

"dungeons are easy" tanks/dps often say, well no, they're only easy cos a healer is working their arse of keeping you alive after you pull 2 dozen mobs at once.

[Trixxy]

As a PLD who does like to speedrun and pull as much as possible I try not to get ahead of myself, I knew which cooldowns are up and I know how much healing our WHM/SCH can do.

Obviously I'll slow down if the healer has difficulties keeping up, sooo..OP probably just met a bunch of really bad Tanks.

I can't even remember when the last time was that I whiped on any dungeon roulette.

[ZaaZaa]

Being a tank myself, i didn't know it was an issue. I always start low, with small pulls and go bigger. First thing i watch is my members HP, that gives an hint of their current i-level. Also, it depends of the set up. What is the point of going SR when you got a nin + BRD as DPS. I don't see BRD being that good on AoEs. As for Nin AoEs... well, we all know they suckaga IV at it. I'd suggest making a macro that would say "ok Tank, please, don't overpull, my current i-level is too low to support big heals in here". So even if your gear-level is fine, you just step on your pride. IT's DF anyway, right ? so.. i mean, who cares ?