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  1. #61
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    Wintersandman's Avatar
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    Winter Sandman
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 70
    I agree with the beginning Speed running is getting ridiculous. Low levels are no longer relaxing. I was in Halatali with a warrior, nin, and archer, me as a whm. I was the only one wearing level 50 gear. But alas the tank decided he wanted to do "Big Pulls". Which in all reality was completely ineffective. Not only could I not dps but the dps were all over the place and things were living way longer than they should have.

    Retrospectively I should have let him die.
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  2. #62
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    New Gridania
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    Character
    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Okay, this has gotten to be stupid. First time in the new WP HM and we get a speedrunner tank. A SPEEDRUNNER TANK! The dungeon hasn't even been here for 24 hours man, you shouldn't be speedrunning in the DF.
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  3. #63
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    With all those stops (Pardon me for a moment: YES! Stops! Forced stops! Let your hate and anger flow forth, O speedrunners!!), how would he even?
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  4. #64
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    With all those stops (Pardon me for a moment: YES! Stops! Forced stops! Let your hate and anger flow forth, O speedrunners!!), how would he even?
    Between two of the stops there are 3 groups of 3 adds. He ran too far ahead of the healer, and he fell to the ground. Didn't have Hallowed Ground ready or anything. Plus he kept the adds in their buffing zone.
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  5. #65
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    Amelia_Pond_Behemoth's Avatar
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    Character
    Violet Baudelaire
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 83
    My group wanted to SR the final leg of AK HM. I was like lolno. We're going to take our time and enjoy it!
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  6. #66
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    EinherjarLucian's Avatar
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    Seattle
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    Character
    Chalyss Hearthglenne
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    tanks eating aoes
    This, by far, is the biggest cause of speed-run wipes. It doesn't matter how good the healer is, if the tank is eating easily-avoidable aoes, he's going to die. Avoidable damage is avoidable, and rocking 12k health as a warrior won't help you if you take five 3k hits at the same time, cooldowns or not.
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  7. #67
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    EinherjarLucian's Avatar
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    Chalyss Hearthglenne
    World
    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Black91CRX View Post
    While grinding for Zodiac drops, I got into Copper HM with a fresh 50 healer. Tank pulled every mob up to first boss at once (after the initial lift gate). I was thoroughly impressed with his ability to keep up.
    A fresh 50 healer can do just fine as long as the tank does his part and uses cooldowns and dodges aoes. And at least a fresh 50 healer isn't in much danger of stealing threat through healing enmity! It's arguably much worse with a fresh tank and overgeared DD and healers, but still manageable as long as the DDs (and the healers) watch their threat carefully.
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  8. #68
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    Rasylia's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Rasylia S'ial
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by EinherjarLucian View Post
    as long as the DDs (and the healers) watch their threat carefully.
    You pinpointed one of the biggest problems.
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  9. #69
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    Amiraa's Avatar
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    Character
    Frida Giannini
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Pt with 2 blm and super bullet jesus puller PLD just runs off didn't bother to wait AS ALWAYS, I decided to not chase him why bother to comment "wait plz let me buff before u pull". Stupid to force people to SR first day of the update what the hell tanks LOL chill out with the SR.
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  10. #70
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    Dayne's Avatar
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    Character
    Dayne Garaio
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Did the new WP for the first time earlier today, the tank ended up pulling 2-3 packs at a time, i didn't mind, and don't usually mind(as long as tanks dodge).

    But the fault for this is not on the players, this brand spanking new dungeon is FACE ROLL EASY, especially the trash mobs, yes im a good bit over i90, but with a full i90 party i honestly believe 2 packs per pull would be a cake walk(as long as you have some aoe dps)

    These dungeons are just far to easy.

    Though the bosses are well balanced for the most part.
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