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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Do you really need to destroy the rare furniture because it is already bound when place its not like it can be resold at that point.
    If you really wanted to sell a piece you could. Invite buyer to FC, give rights to remove items from only 1 of the 3 slots from fc chest, place furniture to be sold in that slot.

    Just like if I get bored someday I'm gonna see if a bunch of people will sell me their wedding cakes.

    But still, none of that is really harmful to the economy, not like houses get destroyed every day.
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    Vola T'enkha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Do you really need to destroy the rare furniture because it is already bound when place its not like it can be resold at that point.
    Adding to the chorus of voices on this one. There is no reason to punish us for wanting to redecorate or move. I love housing, I love a lot of what SE does with XIV; this particular issue is one of the poorer decisions. Please make them removable?
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    SongJoohee's Avatar
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    Au Ra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    In order to preserve the rarity of the materials and furnishings, we've implemented a system that will destroy certain housing items when they are removed. However, as we have been receiving an increasing number of comments asking us to ease up on this so that player's can move furnishings and swap patterns out more easily, we will look into whether or not we can do this for rare furniture.
    Please do this. One of the biggest things putting my FC off from moving from out Cottage to Medium House is the fact we would lose so many furnishings and have to pay to replace them all
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    Mykll Valiant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    In order to preserve the rarity of the materials and furnishings, we've implemented a system that will destroy certain housing items when they are removed. However, as we have been receiving an increasing number of comments asking us to ease up on this so that player's can move furnishings and swap patterns out more easily, we will look into whether or not we can do this for rare furniture.
    I don't understand. If you own a house, or FC room, and you place an item down, that should bind the item to you, and that should be enough. If you change FCs, or you go from a small to a medium house, how is moving that item to the new house NOT preserving the rarity of anything? You still only have the one item. Not like picking it up and putting it in your bag duplicates the item. It is still a singular item, being able to keep that item still preserves how rare it is, there are exactly the same number of items in the world as if that item was kept in the same old house and that house owner never moved.

    Maybe you should have said needlessly destroying items is INCREASING the rarity, as not 100% if the items are being re-created.

    And this is partly why I never bought a small house. I did not want to deal with this mess of having to trash things if I ever got a medium.
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    Last edited by Mykll; 02-24-2015 at 02:14 PM. Reason: 1,000 character limit still sucks.

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    Shuu Naranol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    In order to preserve the rarity of the materials and furnishings, we've implemented a system that will destroy certain housing items when they are removed. However, as we have been receiving an increasing number of comments asking us to ease up on this so that player's can move furnishings and swap patterns out more easily, we will look into whether or not we can do this for rare furniture.
    Just another example of SE arbitrarily and for no legitimate reason making the most basic things as complicated and annoying as possible. Way too many such in this game tbh, so if there's anything to ease up on, it's that way of thinking overall, imo. :/
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    Walter Ramuh
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    Just another example of SE arbitrarily and for no legitimate reason making the most basic things as complicated and annoying as possible. Way too many such in this game tbh, so if there's anything to ease up on, it's that way of thinking overall, imo. :/

    Hey lets put tripple triad into the game that sounds like fun! lets make the cards obtainable form dungeons such as darkhold with an abysmal chance worse than cancer! that should make the game more fun!
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    In order to preserve the rarity of the materials and furnishings, we've implemented a system that will destroy certain housing items when they are removed. However, as we have been receiving an increasing number of comments asking us to ease up on this so that player's can move furnishings and swap patterns out more easily, we will look into whether or not we can do this for rare furniture.
    Need to reverse this decisions with the new reclamation system. The items are already bound but it's a slap in the face to destroy them out right considering those are the most expanse items in the game.
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    Neira Velithe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    In order to preserve the rarity of the materials and furnishings, we've implemented a system that will destroy certain housing items when they are removed. However, as we have been receiving an increasing number of comments asking us to ease up on this so that player's can move furnishings and swap patterns out more easily, we will look into whether or not we can do this for rare furniture.
    I'm typing this with the sincere hope that a representative from SE will read and consider what I'm about to say. I understand the original premise behind the idea of the furnishings being destroyed, as it will help keep the market more active for those items. However, I feel that at this point in time, we have reached a period where that decision is harming the community, and that the rare end game furnishings and items necessary to craft them have become too scarce to allow this design to persist without intervention.

    The issue we now face with these items is more than the content being old and outdated, it's that the accessibility of the duties themselves has become limited. The addition of the undersized parties option to the duty finder was an enlightened decision that has given many players the ability to do old content with enjoyment, to gain glamour items, completion, or simply have fun. However, while furnishings requiring EX primals are obtainable for any group that goes into the old content, simply finding another seven people who want to do the old fights without being level synced is a challenge in of itself. But since those necessary items won't drop with the undersize party option, the majority of players are finishing their farming the easy way for ponies or glamours, while those few who are seeking the furnishings are left with little hope of ever getting the necessary items.

    Then you have the furnishings requiring 24 person raids, which have always been rare, and as they have a 24 person requirement to even enter, the ability to easily access the duty for even a chance at the drop is increasingly difficult. This content is on the verge of being dead, and every item that you can get from it is going to become irreplaceable. Then compound that fact with the loss of the furnishings if they're removed or if the plot they're associated to gets reclaimed, it becomes reasonable to predict that these decorations may eventually vanish from the servers entirely.

    Please, I kindly request that the development team looks into a solution for the problems that this sort of furnishing currently faces. I'm sure that there is a solution out there to fix either end of the dilemma that home owners currently face in game, and your subscribers would be grateful.
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    In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neira View Post
    I'm typing this with the sincere hope that a representative from SE will read and consider...
    And please don't forget the walls/floor/lighting/outside stuff...

    One of these items Neira is talking about is the ADS Illuminant which makes the Illumination Module. I have cleared BCOB more times than I can count trying to get my full tank set and not once have I seen this Illuminant drop. I just happened to catch the market at the right time to buy one of these to make the light but they rightfully have sky rocked because no one does Coil anymore. Anyways I placed my shiny new light in my personal house but have since taken over a lot of roles in my FC including decorator. I would really like to put the ADS light in my FC house but we all know how that goes.

    Following this line of thinking... would SE and the devs really think it is ok that the new house skins, which take hundreds of materials to make, be destroyed just to switch up for a new look? Well i guess the "make it more rare" because no one is ever gonna spend the time and money to make it again is... kinda correct?
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    Michelle Maddin
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    You would hate my retainer who brought me an illuminant via a random quick venture.
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