Spiritbonding at T4?

[keroo]

I've seen tanks doing this.. is it worth it?

[Chiramu]

Depends on how much you're spirit-bonding as a tank. It does take a very long time to spirit-bond level 50 gear, how many runs will you have to do of T4 to get 100%?
Also, if you are spirit-bonding too much the dreadnaughts could end up killing you too.

[keroo]

Depends on how much you're spirit-bonding as a tank. It does take a very long time to spirit-bond level 50 gear, how many runs will you have to do of T4 to get 100%?
Also, if you are spirit-bonding too much the dreadnaughts could end up killing you too.

I mean the change of those ilvl 70 accessories.. does it give IV materies?

[Necato]

You can get materia IV from ilvl 45 gear. The higher the ilvl, the better the chance to get materia IV.
At ilvl 70 I still get a lot of materia III. It seems a bit better with ilvl 90 but accessories are a pain to synth >_<

Perhaps ilvl 110 is a guaranted materia IV ?

[Lollie]

I cannot give the exact numbers at this time but if all you are trying to accomplish is getting IV materia it is a faster in full sets of il45. Of course t4 has the added benefit of tos/p and counts twards the tank mounts.

[Synestra]

2-3 T4 runs should SB ilvl70 from 0-100% T3 might actually be faster but that requires pre-made group as nobody really doest that via DF.

[Themis]

2-3 T4 runs should SB ilvl70 from 0-100% T3 might actually be faster but that requires pre-made group as nobody really doest that via DF.

If you just use HQ accessories with no other bonuses to spirit bond rate (eg potions, FC buff, materia melds) it takes about 6 runs of T4. I use 1 materia meld and an spiritbond potion and it takes me 5 runs (I get 20% per run). If you fully meld them up, you can probably get them in around 3 runs, but sitting there trying to max meld them is more painful than running an extra 2 times.

[Sounders]

I think you also have to take into consideration the cost of peacock ore (or animal fat if you're dps). Is it worth it? Will the chance of getting tier4 materia make up for the cost of mats? How much do you lose for getting tier3 materia?

[Tyrial]

I think you also have to take into consideration the cost of peacock ore (or animal fat if you're dps). Is it worth it? Will the chance of getting tier4 materia make up for the cost of mats? How much do you lose for getting tier3 materia?

If you have somebody who's able to craft the stuff for you at no charge (or are able to do so yourself) it's definitely worth doing. The mats are easy to get and the reward can be quite substantial, even if you're only getting Tier III materia. A Tier IV Crit or Det will go for 500k+ and even a Tier IV VIT is 100k+ on most servers.

Even with poor luck you're going to break even if you farmed most of your mats (unless RNGesus hates you and you get all elemental materia).

[Urthdigger]

Even with poor luck you're going to break even if you farmed most of your mats (unless RNGesus hates you and you get all elemental materia).

Whether mats were farmed or purchased should never be considered in terms of profit. One should always consider that the person simply bought the materials off the market board. If that would be unprofitable, then the craft+SB section was unprofitable even if materials were farmed due to a little thing called opportunity cost, as by turning the materials into materia you lost the potential profit you could have obtained by selling the materials. At that point you're just farming profitable items to pay for your SBing habit.