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  1. #1
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Pictomancien Lv 100

    Damage calculator for all classes?

    Somebody show me this site yesterday and I just wonder how accurate it is. Ninja is way more stronger than anybody else if this is correct.

    http://sim.ffxivguild.net/
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    Sargatanas
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    Mage bleu Lv 60
    Definitely some weird stuff going on with his stat weights at least. I would guess he's calculating them himself to have so many decimal points but they're not the updated ones on reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...eight_updates/) and in particular sks for nin as .151 but in a sustained long fight it's .203? That makes no sense.

    Also right on the top he says it's a work in progress, "take anything here with a grain of salt". In practical use people's numbers aren't coming out like he predicts as well.
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  3. #3
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Yah i know it is in progress but just wonder if it is anywhere near accurate.
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    This is only useful for simulating theoretical fights on 1 Training dummy, which means that you obviously can't compare Jobs against one another. Kudos to the person that created it, but the fact-of-the-matter is, it's not accurate (which the author demarcates too), nor can it be used as a tool to draw any valuable information from.
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    Well, it gets even shakier if you read the description...stuff like "i think these are how the tooltips work but I don't even have all classes @50"...and "the only class I play seriously is MNK"...guy doesn't come off as having a lot of experience or confidence in his findings. And there's no indication of time here so as far as nin goes, it could be before the slight nerf. And his drg max #s are low so it probably is before that update. Wouldn't account for all the discrepancy between nin and the other jobs, but he may also have some misunderstandings of how things work to put it that high.

    The practical answer is that no, it's not accurate. It has the potential to be, but he may not be the one to put that together, at least not without a few people who know other jobs' rotations and abilities better.
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    I do not regard that site as accurate. Not one bit. That's why I've never used it. And the Weights calculated on that site are completely off. Do not use it.
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    The sims for everyone but NIN look outdated to me. You can parse way higher on the other classes now.
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    Danielle Osmond
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    It's hard to make DPS accurate at times. Seem ppl mostly post on how they can push up to 500+ DPS in a few seconds. Depends on the fights like Final Coil that's a toughie cause every fight changes depending on the situation so sometimes can't stay on the DPS you want it to be.
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    Roegadyn Masterrace
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    Yeah it does look horribly wrong to me. I put my stats in and it is saying i should be doing 412 dps which seems incredibly low for someone with an i115 weapon.
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Maître d'hast Lv 70
    One reason for that is that it uses Valk's formula, which lowballs the results considerably. I've also noticed that Full Thrust is at 300 potency in the code (the author has expressed regret at blindly getting tooltip descriptions off a wiki...).
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