Please, no more job restrictions for glamour.

[Korilynn]

I was thinking on this the last few days and I thought the best way to do this wasn't to totally remove the restrictions, but instead give players another thing to chase after.

Not a quest, but rather a reason to get more classes to 50! Get a class/job to 50, that class/job's outfits are unlocked for you.

So want to wear that nice looking BLM jacket on your MNK? Get a BLM to 50!

[Hito-Shura]

I'd still rather job/class specific gear to be just that, restricted to those jobs.

Though the restrictions should be consistent across the board; DoW can't glamour DoM equipment, especially when DoW can glamour into DoM (and tanks having the most freedom). Either that, or lift the restriction that prevents DoM from glamouring into DoW.

Or introduce more of those craftable versions that can be used by any class, such as the taffeta or light-steel series.

The whole " we dont want to confuse players" thing is a pretty weak reasoning, but I'm floating more on the (cant find the right word) willing suspension of belief in regards to how your character look in non-seasonal/event items.

See? I wouldn't mind that and those are actually pretty good ideas.

Changing the current system to DoW and DoM which will allow more freedom but still restrict the different discipline like many other games is what I had in mind at first. Either that or create craftable/dyable versions of the same armors... But considering the amount of work that would require, I doubt it'll ever happen.

I was thinking on this the last few days and I thought the best way to do this wasn't to totally remove the restrictions, but instead give players another thing to chase after.

Not a quest, but rather a reason to get more classes to 50! Get a class/job to 50, that class/job's outfits are unlocked for you.

So want to wear that nice looking BLM jacket on your MNK? Get a BLM to 50!

Good idea too! Glamour should be a reward for something. Either through currency/craftable or through certain questings/leveling up.

At least restrictions would be lifted somehow.

[Felis]

Though the restrictions should be consistent across the board; DoW can't glamour DoM equipment, especially when DoW can glamour into DoM (and tanks having the most freedom). Either that, or lift the restriction that prevents DoM from glamouring into DoW.

DoM classes can't wear DoW gear, DoW classes can't wear DoM gear and "all class" gear is never DoM nor DoW gear.

All what the devs need to do is bringing less DoW or DoM gear ingame and much more "all class" gear.
As an example, it would be nice to find "all class" gear in the next raid, which don't have only stats for DoM and DoW on it, but also for DoH and DoL ^^

Or just remove clas requirements on gear and bring back the favored classes gearsystem.

[RiceisNice]

I should've specified. Caster gear in the low levels (the one with "all classes" and give caster oriented stats) can be used by all DoW classes; A tank could look like a caster or DRG, but a DRG cannot look like a tank, and a caster cannot look like a DRG or tank.

The problem with having "all class" on gear just to lift the glamour restriction is that...it doens't just lift glamour restriction, but gear restriction as well. We'd see healers with high str, vitality and armor, MNKs wearing DRG gear for higher defense modifiers, etc etc

[Stihllodeing]

I think the devs either think too much of a single player game for FF14 or do not trust their player base with the message the game and our character send to new players. Rather disappointing to be honest.

That would be disappointing, especially in a pay to play game with adult content. I'd be really surprised if they actually said something in that regard at some point. It would make me scratch my head as I looked on that naked tank standing next to me

I agree that my character is a representation of what I would like to see or "reflect" like you said. It's a common theme for players in just about any mmo community. In my opinion the more freedom the better. And like I said, personally, I'd rather it not apply in pvp. But I wouldn't care enough to post about changing it either.

I'd still rather job/class specific gear to be just that, restricted to those jobs.

I don't blame anyone for preferring this but I certainly do not. I haven't unlocked glamours yet, but from what I understand I can't have my armorer glamour disciple of war or tank specific gear. That kind of limits what I can do with my own theme for my armorer.

Little stuff like that when it comes to customization makes the game more in depth imo.

[BreathlessTao]

I remember the devs said the restriction was set to no "confuse players". Like a white mage wearing paladin gear for example.

That reasoning goes down the toilet though and gets pretty much insulting when 7 out of every 8 times I get in a roulette, I see tanks in spring/wedding dresses, tuxedos, beachwear, sleepwear... And specifically with wanting tanks to look like tanks, it's really quite stupid since tanks exactly are those who can equip the most gear, since tank/DoW gear is pretty much always tank/DoW specific, while a good big chunk of what DoM wears is simply "all classes" unrestricted. (And let's not even mention gender locking, again with pieces that are available for both females and males on one hand and then pieces that can only be worn by females.)

I agree glamour is unnecessarily overcomplicated/restricted. Not only what can be glamoured by who, but also how it all works from the prisms to the fact that we have to have physical versions of what we want to glamour (yet they also say they don't want too much character data stored on the servers). Top that off with how little variety we really have with casual clothes, and how stupidly hard even most of that is to obtain... Yeah, glamours don't only need to lose the restrictions, but need a pretty much complete overhaul.

[Tonkra]

i dont like the idea of a palading wearing a woven robe... and tanking like with plate armor.. with is just ridiculous

this kills just the ideal/immerson for me personally..

[Hito-Shura]

i dont like the idea of a palading wearing a woven robe... and tanking like with plate armor.. with is just ridiculous

this kills just the ideal/immerson for me personally..

Hence why the DoM and DoW restrictions would be sufficient. There is a lot of pieces of equipment that could look great combined with heavier pieces of armors but are restricted to job instead of discipline. A heavily armored character doesn't have to be clad in metal from head to toe to look like a tank. Other way around with the melee dps classes.

[Jynx]

Sadly the whole Job identity went out the window when Bikinis, thongs and snowman heads became the norm for everyone to glamor.

I support their idea for a proper Identity when playing, but they allready half assed it and can't fix it without enraging the players further. Eventually glamor restrictions will be released and people will praise the very ground Yoshida walks on for doing so.

[Hito-Shura]

Sadly the whole Job identity went out the window when Bikinis, thongs and snowman heads became the norm for everyone to glamor.

I support their idea for a proper Identity when playing, but they allready half assed it and can't fix it without enraging the players further. Eventually glamor restrictions will be released and people will praise the very ground Yoshida walks on for doing so.

I'd say the thongs, bikinis and funny costumes are very common because the current glamour system seems to only encourage ridiculous costumes outside of ''job gear'' when trying to go out of the ordinary. People no longer search for personal identity through cool combinations anymore since the cool options are already very limited and probably already taken by way too many people.

At least that's how I feel about it.

The devs should not focus on job identity since everyone can play pretty much everything. They should focus on personal identity by allowing more creative freedom.