Please, no more job restrictions for glamour.

[DarkDedede]

I really don't understand this whole "confused player" logic. As long as they're holding the correct weapon, that should be indication enough for what job they are playing.

If they player has earned the necessary job level to equip the piece, they should be able to glamour it to another job. It would be a fun way to show off their accomplishments outside of the job that they are currently playing.

[Seoulstar]

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Can't really use class identity when there are events that gives glamour items. If a tank is supposed to look like a tank then I doubt they would be running around wearing bikinis, or a dress, or whatever that doesn't look like plated armor. I'm pretty sure the weapons are more than enough to identify whatever the class is.

[Reaperking386]

Can't really use class identity when there are events that gives glamour items. If a tank is supposed to look like a tank then I doubt they would be running around wearing bikinis, or a dress, or whatever that doesn't look like plated armor. I'm pretty sure the weapons are more than enough to identify whatever the class is.

There are some exceptions to this rule such as bathing suits and event items that the Dev team and Yoshi P. have allowed, but just because these items are allowed does not mean we should make everything free game.

The Dev. team see's that allowing full freedom of glamour to be unhealthy for FF14 concerning class identity and player confusion. I am happy they have a place in this game where they can put their foot down and say no to the fans. It tells me that they care about the game's image too and will say no because they also have a belief on what the game should be in their eyes.

BUT; That does not mean they can't make some armor for specific class oriented jobs that can cross this line such as a Black Mage plate armor designed for Black Mages like they did for White Mages in FF11.

[Cidel]

Flying adamantoise.


Your immersion and class identity confusions are invalid.

[Reaperking386]

Flying adamantoise.


Your immersion and class identity confusions are invalid.

A magical flying turtle that the fan base begged for is hardly an impact let alone argument at all concerning class identity and immersion of Final Fantasy. It is an insignificant mount that does not concern the overall game experience.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

A magical flying turtle that the fan base begged for is hardly an impact let alone argument at all concerning class identity and immersion of Final Fantasy. It is an insignificant mount that does not concern the overall game experience.

So basicly your not ok with that. Ok with a Bikini wearing Miqo'te using a huge axe is tanking a GOD.

k...

S'long as we understand eachother dude.

[Breezelyn]

I've always wanted to use the Kirimu Coat on my healer, but I can't, because...well...Bard/Machinist only! I think it would look nice on me! I dislike games that restrict customization so much like this glamour system. You have so many options to put together a neat looking outfit, but... a piece or two you can't wear, because...it can't be glamoured for the class(es) you play! Customization of one's character is a big thing for most people I know. It would be nice if it was lifted. It would bring so many different kinds of outfit combinations then. Would be interesting to see. So I hope this changes in the future.


Just the whole "confusing players" BS is so weak argument based. Just look at someone's weapon(s), and you should be able to identity what class/job they are. There's also clicking on them and examining what they are too. It actually says what class/job they're currently on in big betters under their level in the Examine window. Also, in 4/8 parties, you can see what someone is as well. So...I don't see how the whole "it would confuse players" argument can really take hold. Need a better argument, Dev team.

[Reaperking386]

So basicly your not ok with that. Ok with a Bikini wearing Miqo'te using a huge axe is tanking a GOD.

k...

S'long as we understand eachother dude.

I am ok with the mount, but not the galmor. The Dev's are not ok with the removal of glamor restriction, but they are willing to give an inch long as it is understandable to them and does not ruin the overall game experience. Adamantoise is a flying turtle that is powered by "magic", but it is still identified as a turtle and a mount. It having flying does not take the fact away that it is a mount and is a turtle of the Final Fantasy game,but if a mage is to wear plated armor that a paladin usually will wear than it does take away of what a mage should be in the Dev's and other player's eyes physically. Bathing suits are a complicated issue, but they are available to all class types which is something that can cross that line.

But before I finish this argument here, I want to say that the Dev's can compromise and allow specific "plated" armor for caster type such as what they did in FF11 to still give their fans the plated armor they wanted while still keeping their class identity intact.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

I am ok with the mount, but not the galmor. The Dev's are not ok with the removal of glamor restriction, but they are willing to give an inch long as it is understandable to them and does not ruin the overall game experience. Adamantoise is a flying turtle that is powered by "magic", but it is still identified as a turtle and a mount. It having flying does not take the fact away that it is a mount and is a turtle of the Final Fantasy game,but if a mage is to wear plated armor that a paladin usually will wear than it does take away of what a mage should be in the Dev's and other player's eyes physically. Bathing suits are a complicated issue, but they are available to all class types which is something that can cross that line.

But before I finish this argument here, I want to say that the Dev's can compromise and allow specific "plated" armor for caster type such as what they did in FF11 to still give their fans the plated armor they wanted while still keeping their class identity intact.

If classes identity is fully designed by just the clothing/armor they wear.. then we have serious issues with classes.

Everquest II for example, classes were identified by their "cool" abilities they had. They had fun spells that changed the look of the class. Shadowknight's could have hatred literally coming from their hands and weapons and Berserkers in combat literally looked like they had fury coming from them. No separate "glamour"

If classes are that boring, then we have an issue that isn't just glamour.

This game is even MORE restricted then a game from 2003 with almost 8 times more models.


The game should not be so restricted on what you wear, however classes should carry themselves differently and have different ways of moving and such. Having cool or fun spells that give the classes different textures for appearance as well.

This is 2016. We can make ways of classes being unique!

[Reaperking386]

If classes identity is fully designed by just the clothing/armor they wear.. then we have serious issues with classes.

Everquest II for example, classes were identified by their "cool" abilities they had. They had fun spells that changed the look of the class. Shadowknight's could have hatred literally coming from their hands and Berserkers in combat literally looked like they had fury coming from them. No separate "glamour"

If classes are that boring, then we have an issue that isn't just glamour.

FF14 is not Everquest though and just because they do it does not mean FF14 should follow suit. FF14 has a clear cut line on preserving their class look by their physical appearance. Square has always done that when it came to class specific FF games.