New Dungeons PLEASE!

[Ceodore]

We've seen Sastasha HM, we've seen Brayflox HM. Tam Tara, Copperbell, Halatali, Haukke Manor, Qarn, Stone Vigil, even a new Amdapor type dungeon. Am I the only person who wants to see Toto-Rak, Cutter's Cry, Dzemael Darkhold, and Aurum Vale given hard modes too?

Edit: confirmed in Patch 2.5, Amdapor Keep HM, Wanderer's Palace HM, and Keeper of the Lake... can we please keep recycling the nostalgic dungeons too?

[WellFooled]

I heard, second hand, that the reason dungeons that existed in 1.0 aren't getting hard modes is that they were designed differently somehow than dungeons in 2.0, so making a hard mode of them would be as much work as making a new dungeon from scratch. But again, I've got no official source for this.

[Nutz]

As WellFooled said, I believe they went over this during the Tokyo Fan Fest when the new dungeons were announced. Presumably they designed the new to 2.0 dungeons with the idea of hard mode versions to be released later in mind, but the dungeons that existed in 1.x obviously were not designed in such a way. All I can imagine is that for the 2.0+ dungeons they actually had more assets and paths set up upon release that they later used for the HM versions, whereas there was nothing unused in the 1.x dungeons to draw from, so completely new areas would have to be made and somehow incorporated into the overall design of the existing dungeon.

[Krysanthia]

As WellFooled said, I believe they went over this during the Tokyo Fan Fest when the new dungeons were announced. Presumably they designed the new to 2.0 dungeons with the idea of hard mode versions to be released later in mind, but the dungeons that existed in 1.x obviously were not designed in such a way. All I can imagine is that for the 2.0+ dungeons they actually had more assets and paths set up upon release that they later used for the HM versions, whereas there was nothing unused in the 1.x dungeons to draw from, so completely new areas would have to be made and somehow incorporated into the overall design of the existing dungeon.

To add on: it's not so much that there's some sort of tech keeping them from doing HMs of the 1.0 dungeons - it's that they already basically revamped them for ARR and they wanted to focus on the newer dungeons rather than do yet another revamp for the 1.0 ones.

[Dyvid]

SE has done a great job at making recycled dungeons feel new and different though. I really feel the HM versions are different from normal mode runs.

[Nestama]

SE has done a great job at making recycled dungeons feel new and different though. I really feel the HM versions are different from normal mode runs.

Because they're super easy to speed run and you can ignore the mechanics of certain bosses :P
(I'm sorry. I'm still jaded that, even though the HM dungeons are nice, they're just not challenging. Not even for casual players).

[Ceodore]

I guess I'll settle for new Zodiac step and new HMs of already level 50 dungeons. Obviously everyone has their own opinion on how they think a game should develop, and my opinion is just different. But as they say, you always wish for things that you don't have, so if I had these HMs, I'd probably wish for different unique ones.

[axemtitanium]

There is a quiet elegance to the fact that every single new dungeon introduced in vanilla 2.0 launch has received a hard mode version within the 2.x patch series. The only dungeons missing hard modes are the ones from 1.0 that received new versions when updated to 2.0 systems.

[Felis]

Where is our Castrum Meridianum HM? ^^