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    What numbers should an I110 Bard bring in T10?

    Hoi there! Usually tanking this fight, was asked to Bard as we had an abundance of tanks, so I'm a but curious how far I am from being a "real bard".

    With Risotto and no Dragoon, was pretty consistantly at 316-319 on my DPS. It feels low to me, though it's not my main, it's using a Diamond bow, and I can't really imagine much I can do to push out more damage, aside from start investing in Poe gear, or grinding out some niche SCOB gear to push a few things forward. But I'm open to suggestion.
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    Ellunavi Sevald
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    How many songs are playing?

    How much crit do you have?

    I'd imagine you can easily get 350-380 at i110 with an i115 weapon, but diamond bow is really bad.
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    Rinchan Nau
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    Depends on config. On my alt character I did 411 in t10 @ close to i110. May have been i112 or so. But in that party there was a DRG so you have to factor in the 6% or so boost from disembowel. 94% of 411 is 386. I don't have time at work to review the video and check for deaths, amount of Paeon usage, etc, but I imagine there was at least 1/2 a bar of Paeon due to MNK + DRG melee config.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavieh View Post
    How many songs are playing?

    How much crit do you have?

    I'd imagine you can easily get 350-380 at i110 with an i115 weapon, but diamond bow is really bad.
    Foes, pretty much any time it's up. Actually my current character page is my Bard set - http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1567862/

    576 Dex, 428 Crit, 276 Det, 513 Skill speed. It's basically all Auroral Set, except for Bow and Feet. And a Weathered Auroral Ring/True Ice bracelet.

    And again, there was no Dragoon, so that buff wasn't around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steady View Post
    Snip.
    So you didn't play Paeon? Then you had to be burnt on TP, if you weren't burnt on TP then you were rotating your skills properly.

    You have so much SKS that TP should be a problem you are having, and playing Paeon kills you dps anyway.

    You really need to itemize better as well, take the hit and farm SCoB or get some crafted items.

    I am no BRD expert, but i understand the class. With similar gear but a different bow (HA) I do around 440-450 on Turn 8 playing one Paeon. If you take away echo that is around 396 ~ or so, considering that Turn 10 has a few mechanics that prevent damage I would still say that you could easily be around 350+ with your current set up.
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    Rui Ooshima
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    I remember my early clear was IL106 (3 crafted accessories for the HP, prepared future turns in advance) with IL115 weapon was slightly over 400. I have a DRG in party though.
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    I did have tp issues. I was of the impression that was better to wait for Invigorate to pop than activate Paeon if your the only one needing it. But yeah, generally sometime after the first Invig i get a little dry, then it's usually up... then between 2nd and third invig, there's probably a good 10 seconds or more where I'm bone dry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    I remember my early clear was IL106 (3 crafted accessories for the HP, prepared future turns in advance) with IL115 weapon was slightly over 400. I have a DRG in party though.
    Well, perhaps I need to go back to school then. I know I'm dusty as hell on Bard... but aside from keeping DOT's up, and popping cooldowns when their up not sure there is much more nuance to it. I suppose I could put DOT's all all four son/daughters before focusing on one. Unfortunately I have no gil for crafted items, as I'm helping to fund a house for the FC.
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    I would highly recommend that when you can afford it to swap out Soldiery Coat for Kimiru and overmeld that sucker with materia.
    Or perhaps some crafters in your FC can help out? It did cost me a bit (2.5 mil) lol
    Some of the ironworks gear would help as well, but i avoid some of it as it does not work with my build
    I myself usually just invigorate and if desperately need Paeon then can play that, again situation dependant.
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    Cecilia Tyyne
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    Ideally, you should be doing 400+ DPS without any deaths and if you have a DRG/NIN in your party. 370-380 should be the minimum if you're singing songs like Mage's Ballad or Army's Paeon more than once.

    For dealing with the son & daughter pairs, I just DoT the first pair being focused before focusing on the specific mob. The second add phase can be different depending how your group handles them (either do one pair like the first add phase, or one daughter and son from both pairs). Getting both your DoTs on two adds is all you need since you have to focus those adds down quickly.

    As for your gear, the less skill speed you have the better you are. Ideally, you want to have a 2.47s GCD recast on your BRD to make it easier to weave in two off-GCD skills. Pairing up our buffs contributes a lot to our DPS.
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