An idea for Summoner's Enkindle

[Dyvid]

I don't want the new to replace the old, I just want them to be reworked where they each have more defined roles. Each one should have enough purpose to where no single egi is used for ALL the content. I'm so sick of seeing yellow birds flying around whenever a SMN is in the group. I like the fact that Ifrit has become as useful as Garuda, if not moreso, in certain situations.

Well you and I definitely agree on that point, but there are only so many roles to take. I guess at this point I can only hope the the new egis fill the DPS roles of Single Target pet, AoE pet, and CC pet.

[ShaolinMike]

Well you and I definitely agree on that point, but there are only so many roles to take. I guess at this point I can only hope the the new egis fill the DPS roles of Single Target pet, AoE pet, and CC pet.

If that's all they are, I'll be quite disappointed. There needs to be some evolution in acquiring new pets, not just skin swaps like they did with the Carbuncles -> current egis

[Ossom]

IMHO, Summoner should be the replacement for bard.

Giving people an option to not have to be DPS chasers but still dps heavy.

Summons should come with a Buff

Summoners should get a CD Mp Regen skill (Say 2 Min CD)
Pets should offer some sort of party buff while out or something.

Titan out? +5% HP or Higher Parry Chance or something
Ifrit out? +5% Crit or Damage or AA's or something
Garuda out? +5% Spellspeed or Skillspeed or increase on Proc rates
Ramuh out? etc..

Or maybe, Energy Drain has 20% To Regen MP equal to full damage and gives to whole party.

Idunno, I just don't think that every DPS job should be, so DPS heavy, support jobs are where the fun is at. I mean look at Sch, they are healers but they are expected to DPS too. Summoner should be the opposite side of the same coin IMHO.

One is more Buff X Heal (Adlo, Succor) and some Heals, the other should be More DPS and some Buffs

[Tex_Mex]

This was a pretty interesting read for me. I like the idea of having another strong support class, but 2 things would need to happen in order to make this not completely overshadow bard.

1) During the times when the party is being heavily buffed, your pets damage needs to drop off considerably, this would be to try and mirror the 20% dps drop that bard has to trade off.
2) The pet casting system needs to be reworked. The system you have suggested means that players would need to spend a long time bringing out out new pets so that they have the appropriate buff when they need it. The 7 second cast time and high mana cost to summon is not realistic when smn's have mana problems like they do now. I would say do something like this.

quick summon: makes your next summon cast instantly and reduces mana cost by 75%. (2 min CD)

Basically, a quick cast that also reduces mana cost, but for summon skills only. The CD is to punish bad smn's who let their pets die too often.

[ZhycranaDranix]

Stop giving SMNs these 2 min CD buffs ? Like part of the issue with SMN is you start off strong and then Drop DPS Drastically because you're waiting for that godly RS on top of Cont. Combo for high sustained dots....either give SMNs a 15% off 1 min CD or decrease RS CD time. Also make them more potent then the SCHs DoTs don't de-buff the SCHs dots just make a SMNs more potent ffs.

SMN Already has to wait for Ekindle off that ungodly CD quit adding longer ideas to it.
SMN should have INT buff on its own and that will somewhat fix the problem.

[Cattastro]

I hope dev reduce the CD for Enkindle skill to 120s instead of 300s. 300s is too long for skill that not give a higher damage or the CD still 300s but raise the skill potency to 500+ since its do higher damage. Then please cancel casting time to Bio 2 and Miasma 1 since that the only main dps skill that SMN has and it can distinguish the SMN from BLM in term of gameplay utilities since BLM is already have higher dps & good AOE skill. Besides, dev can remove the raise and psyhick skill since its mostly useless in raid/dungeon coz SMN have no time to use it because SMN usually tend to DPS rather than do healing/raise thing like SCH/WHM do. This 2 slot can be replace by damage buff/skill for SMN.

[Cattastro]

I also like the idea, that summoning pet will get permanent party buff like summon garuda will get 5% increase int & spell speed/skill speed etc. I also like the rework idea that, if summoning pet like garuda, SMN will get access to wind type spell and this elemental spell can replace with raise and physick spell. Last but not least, I really hope dev will rework the appearances of the egi's. At least create a true primal appearances in size of the player/minion and not the crystallize one. This will make SMN look like a true Final Fantasy summoner.