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    Why did SE decide to make the three new classes not require base classes?

    Is the game being "dumbed-down" a bit?
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    why would the the lack of base classes mean a dumb down?
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    Classes are pretty pointless anyway. Why not get rid of them?
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    Because Yoshi has expressed his intent to try and remove the classes from the game and just have job. Which I hope they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    Because Yoshi has expressed his intent to try and remove the classes from the game and just have job. Which I hope they do.
    Are you being serious or joking?
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    I'd be more interested in removing the classes (not removing Jobs) and then just having one called...wait for it..."Adventurer". Boom, done, next please.
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    Last edited by Demeos; 12-31-2014 at 05:54 AM. Reason: clarification
    "I've been playing MMO's a long time and if there's one thing I've learned, it's that lions do not concern themselves with the opinions of sheep. Just take that little voice in your head that tells you to be tactful and understanding and shoot it...shoot it in the goddamn face."

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    Kohana Iroha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demeos View Post
    I'd be more interested in removing the classes (not removing Jobs) and then just having one called...wait for it..."Adventurer". Boom, done, next please.
    I had submitted 3 separate suggestions about an Adventurer class (the class has no weapon equipped and has the ability to delve further into NPC lore when not armed to the teeth.)
    to the community team through their official channel since 2011. This is something that makes so much sense to me, I mean common sense that it could have single -handedly fixed Tanaka's
    recycled vision of 1.0 coming into ARR.

    IMO, ARR should not have had playable classes, this system should have been resolved with the introduction of Jobs, making Jobs easier to tweak for when introduing more Jobs in the future that no longer are based on a single class-based
    system. This is why SMN ans SCH is so messed up, because that job is eating the very fruit that contributed to the downfall of 1.0 architecture.

    /rantoff
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    Classes don't serve any purpose other than lore, and this is why I don't see the current 9 classes being removed from the game. Just think about the White Mage questline for exemple, the adventurer is THE ONLY non-padjal allowed to learn the ways of white magic and was only chosen for that becuase of his great skill as a conjurer.

    Combatwise, there is no difference in leveling a "class" from 1 to 30 and then a "job" from 31 to 50 and leveling a "job" from 1 to 50 so most likelly they will simply keep the current classes and don't create any new ones in the future, having only pure jobs from now on.
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    Last edited by KokoGigiyako; 12-31-2014 at 04:19 AM.
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    Aria Placida
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    Quote Originally Posted by KokoGigiyako View Post
    Classes don't serve any purpose other than lore, and this is why I don't see the current 9 classes being removed from the game. Just think about the White Mage questline for exemple, the adventurer is THE ONLY non-padjal allowed to learn the ways of white magic and was only chosen for that becuase of his great skill as a conjurer.
    Honestly, though, they could probably accomplish the same thing while merging WHM and CNJ. Start the game as a CNJ, progress to 30, have a quest that requires 30 CNJ 15 THM, completion of the quest changes you to WHM. Instead of having equipable soulstones, just have it be like any other storyline item that we carry in our not-part-of-the-inventory bag.

    Though, it would do weird things to cross-class skills, now that I think of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Are you being serious or joking?

    Final Fantasy XI and every Final Fantasy game "just" has jobs... and they arent less complex..

    when they get rid of conjurer... they wont need to get rid of the conjurers skills.. because they are almost typical WHM skills anyways..


    It would be good thing, so they wont need to implement a new class for every new job. starting from lv 1 with the specific job.

    Quote Originally Posted by FranSeara View Post
    I'll never be ok with classes being removed.
    because you play a class in endgame?
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