Why did SE decide to make the three new classes not require base classes?

[Akiza]

short answer -- new race, new town, new expansion starter area, needs new starter jobs that don't exist in the typical 3 Eorzea states.

long answer -- This is better for the game. Currently, queue times are horrifically skewed, the best thing this expansion can do currently is make Tank/Heals a more popular and populous path.



Also, Square never said Dark Knight / Astro / Gunner won't have class paths. They just said they're not classes, they're starter jobs.

SE stated the Dark Knight / Astrologian and Machinist won't have base classes because they limit the design of jobs and they have to design new classes for all three of them.

[Felis]

short answer -- new race, new town, new expansion starter area, needs new starter jobs that don't exist in the typical 3 Eorzea states.

long answer -- This is better for the game. Currently, queue times are horrifically skewed, the best thing this expansion can do currently is make Tank/Heals a more popular and populous path.


Also, Square never said Dark Knight / Astro / Gunner won't have class paths. They just said they're not classes, they're starter jobs.

No new starter area. Coerthas and Dravania is a war zone.

[Kuwagami]

No new starter area. Coerthas and Dravania is a war zone.

your opinion. doesn't mean there can't be a starter area there btw.

[Akiza]

Classes are a relic from 1.0 that serves no purpose and Yoshi P wants to remove everything from 1.0. Classes hold back on what developers can do with jobs because all the skills from classes go into making the job so really players are a lvl 50 class and not a level 50 job.

[FranSeara]

Its not better for the game to take classes out................just syaing

[Teslo]

Its not better for the game to take classes out................just syaing

That's your opinion. We've now heard it. Several times. Mostly in broken barely translatable English. It mostly sounds to me like you don't understand how the game works and you're fighting something that hasn't even been announced yet because you're afraid that the new system won't allow you to do whatever it is that you think you're doing. Change is good. The new system might be even better for you in the end. If it happens, it's going to happen. Starting a "Petition" thread is a great way for you to get ignored by the Devs. They don't even look at these. Just chill and accept the change IF IT EVEN HAPPENS.

[FranSeara]

That's your opinion. We've now heard it. Several times. Mostly in broken barely translatable English. It mostly sounds to me like you don't understand how the game works and you're fighting something that hasn't even been announced yet because you're afraid that the new system won't allow you to do whatever it is that you think you're doing. Change is good. The new system might be even better for you in the end. If it happens, it's going to happen. Starting a "Petition" thread is a great way for you to get ignored by the Devs. They don't even look at these. Just chill and accept the change IF IT EVEN HAPPENS.

I'll never be ok with classes being removed.

[Xatsh]

I am not a huge fan of them being removed.

But in their current form classes serve no purpose. Even at low levels Jobs > Classes so why even have classes.

They just need to revamp the cross class system as a whole it is great system that has no purpose anymore with the new game.

What I am worried about is classes are going to have no cross class in the future, and it will be Drk has only Drk, Machinist has only Mach abilities and so on which in my opinion is an awful path. Problem is it needs a complete rework from top to bottom which I am not expecting to see. As the game stands now classes are 100% pointless though and should be removed unless the devs are going to fix it.

[Kuwagami]

What I am worried about is classes are going to have no cross class in the future, and it will be Drk has only Drk, Machinist has only Mach abilities and so on which in my opinion is an awful path. Problem is it needs a complete rework from top to bottom which I am not expecting to see. As the game stands now classes are 100% pointless though and should be removed unless the devs are going to fix it.

stop spreading misinformation thanks. No base class doesn't mean the cross skills system is going to waste with the new jobs. It just mean that it's a job directly (use in end game) without having the burden of a class (useless in end game).

[Xatsh]

stop spreading misinformation thanks. No base class doesn't mean the cross skills system is going to waste with the new jobs. It just mean that it's a job directly (use in end game) without having the burden of a class (useless in end game).

You cannot cross class job abilities. And atm the cross class system is garbage as it stands because it is extremely limited to where there is not really an option to what you cross class. In order to have dept where it means anything endgame it needs a complete rework, anyone playing endgame will tell you this. The part you quoted stated a fear I have with the direction they seem to pushing the game. Never did I state that is what they are doing, maby they are revamping the way the current system works which is what my post stated to begin with. But as it stands YOU CANNOT USE JOB ABILITIES ON OTHER JOBS PERIOD. So since Drk is a job you cannot cross class say drk abilities to pld unless they change the system.

Next time read before typing, thanks.