Why did SE decide to make the three new classes not require base classes?

[Doki]

I imagine it means that the new jobs will not have cross class skills at all.

[FranSeara]

So why so much Class Hate? Look,you EGs have Coils and Ex Pri. to yoursleves. I/us normal players may or may not care about EG stuff. I/we are not calling for the end of endgame. Why becasue I/we know some peope love it. I'd like to see All EG stuff scaled back and the Devs spend more time making stuff for EVERYONE. But,I know this will nvr happen,so I hold my say on it. So, Y do U EGs players want classes gone so much? U dont use them, so why do you care? Having classes in the game means having choices in the game. W/o classes you/I have no choice but to play a 1 dimension Job,which I think SUCKS. I hate Brd,and PLD, so I dont play them much but I do play Arh. and Gld while solo'ing all the time. Y take my choice away? I dont do EG, I dont care, I'll never join yr FCs,PFs or DFs groups. So leave classes alone. Don't make ME start a petiton to keep classes in the game! If u dont like classes just dont use them. Leave everyone elses choices and game alone,go clear coils or something

[Edellis]

short answer -- new race, new town, new expansion starter area, needs new starter jobs that don't exist in the typical 3 Eorzea states.

long answer -- This is better for the game. Currently, queue times are horrifically skewed, the best thing this expansion can do currently is make Tank/Heals a more popular and populous path.


Also, Square never said Dark Knight / Astro / Gunner won't have class paths. They just said they're not classes, they're starter jobs.

[Akiza]

Classes are a relic from 1.0 that serves no purpose and Yoshi P wants to remove everything from 1.0. Classes hold back on what developers can do with jobs because all the skills from classes go into making the job so really players are a lvl 50 class and not a level 50 job.

[Akiza]

short answer -- new race, new town, new expansion starter area, needs new starter jobs that don't exist in the typical 3 Eorzea states.

long answer -- This is better for the game. Currently, queue times are horrifically skewed, the best thing this expansion can do currently is make Tank/Heals a more popular and populous path.



Also, Square never said Dark Knight / Astro / Gunner won't have class paths. They just said they're not classes, they're starter jobs.

SE stated the Dark Knight / Astrologian and Machinist won't have base classes because they limit the design of jobs and they have to design new classes for all three of them.

[FranSeara]

Its not better for the game to take classes out................just syaing

[Xatsh]

I am not a huge fan of them being removed.

But in their current form classes serve no purpose. Even at low levels Jobs > Classes so why even have classes.

They just need to revamp the cross class system as a whole it is great system that has no purpose anymore with the new game.

What I am worried about is classes are going to have no cross class in the future, and it will be Drk has only Drk, Machinist has only Mach abilities and so on which in my opinion is an awful path. Problem is it needs a complete rework from top to bottom which I am not expecting to see. As the game stands now classes are 100% pointless though and should be removed unless the devs are going to fix it.

[Kuwagami]

What I am worried about is classes are going to have no cross class in the future, and it will be Drk has only Drk, Machinist has only Mach abilities and so on which in my opinion is an awful path. Problem is it needs a complete rework from top to bottom which I am not expecting to see. As the game stands now classes are 100% pointless though and should be removed unless the devs are going to fix it.

stop spreading misinformation thanks. No base class doesn't mean the cross skills system is going to waste with the new jobs. It just mean that it's a job directly (use in end game) without having the burden of a class (useless in end game).

[Teslo]

Its not better for the game to take classes out................just syaing

That's your opinion. We've now heard it. Several times. Mostly in broken barely translatable English. It mostly sounds to me like you don't understand how the game works and you're fighting something that hasn't even been announced yet because you're afraid that the new system won't allow you to do whatever it is that you think you're doing. Change is good. The new system might be even better for you in the end. If it happens, it's going to happen. Starting a "Petition" thread is a great way for you to get ignored by the Devs. They don't even look at these. Just chill and accept the change IF IT EVEN HAPPENS.

[ECHOxLegend]

So let me get this straight, classes don't get any specific skills that their one job cant already use, and not advancing to a job doesn't have any benefits, and the "cross-class skills" that i'm hearing about could still exist even if all the classes were jobs , it would just be "cross-job skills" i.e moot point. SO in my opinion, keep the classes we have, because I personally like basic noob->grows->can advance->becomes something similar but different for RP/lore reasons, then don't make anymore classes, because under the CURRENT SYSTEM, there is no reason to separate class \and job combat wise because they are basically the same thing and thus these new jobs can just do all the same skill progression and RP/lore stuff but just all in 1 job without having nitpick and rework all previous classes into their jobs and changing any relevant quests/dialogue/lore to make it seem like you were that job the whole time. Sounds like a good plan to me.