Why did SE decide to make the three new classes not require base classes?

[Valmar]

To be more accurate, the armoury system was dumbed down back in version 1.20-1.21. It just took the devs 2 years to fully understand their own doing and remove what had become useless.

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Now they better remove classes for every job, to keep things simple. Imagine describing the game system to a new player :
"There are 9 classes, and you get a job when they reach lvl 30, which is essentially the same as the class for most of them, and there is one class which gives two jobs, and you also have 3 jobs that start right at level 1 without class."
... when we could just have :
"There are 13 jobs."

More that Likely the Classes will be, like some other people have stated in this thread, the Starting Classes, and respectivly Starting Jobs.

As the betting man that I am, I have a strong feeling that the New Jobs that don't have Base Classes (Lets call them Advanced Jobs) will not start at Level one, and infact will start at level 30 or maybe even Higher, and will require you to have atleast one Base Class leveled to 30 to unlock it.

[Kuwagami]

More that Likely the Classes will be, like some other people have stated in this thread, the Starting Classes, and respectivly Starting Jobs.

As the betting man that I am, I have a strong feeling that the New Jobs that don't have Base Classes (Lets call them Advanced Jobs) will not start at Level one, and infact will start at level 30 or maybe even Higher, and will require you to have atleast one Base Class leveled to 30 to unlock it.

no. Devs stated you'll be able to start fresh as a DRK when expansion comes.

[Hurlstone]

I guess I just love the lore, and would hate to see that stripped from the game.

I do not think they would ever strip the previous class stories from the game. They are far to important, and will likely be here to stay no matter what future jobs are added or if they redesigning the whole 'class' system.


As for the new jobs, if they follow the same '5 levels then a class quest' idea that they have had with the others, then we will still be getting the exact same number of class quests. Having a single job to concentrate on could be an interesting opportunity to expand its story and lore, rather then having 30 levels of class story, and 30 (Count the level rise in the expansion) of job stories.

Is because they can't be bothered to make the base classes worth anything. In 11 people still had reasons to stay a WHM or aTHF even after openning up later jobs. Square didn't bother to make these classes worth anything post 30.

You make a good point that classes basically become worthless after level 30. Although to be fair, in FF11 people still had a reason to play those jobs because they were still unique in their own right. In FF14 though, Jobs basically become an enhanced version of the class.

[Sylve]

I guess I just love the lore, and would hate to see that stripped from the game.

Its not really stripping anything.

The Class to Job progression in Lore is the Adventurer rediscovering lost Magic/Skills.

Going forward, our Jobs are new to the world of Eorzea, so having a Job Crystal that whispers secrets of old techniques makes absolutely no sense, lore wise.
These aren't Jobs that existed in the distance past, So having no base class makes a lot of sense.
One could argue that the Classes are whats left of the Jobs as the more advanced techniques were lost to time.

[Sunako]

Only class that have some kind of porpose is arcanist because they have 2 different job. Wonder are other classes gonna get more jobs in the future.

[Shadex]

Is because they can't be bothered to make the base classes worth anything. In 11 people still had reasons to stay a WHM or aTHF even after openning up later jobs. Square didn't bother to make these classes worth anything post 30.

[Dijana]

Is because they can't be bothered to make the base classes worth anything. In 11 people still had reasons to stay a WHM or aTHF even after openning up later jobs. Square didn't bother to make these classes worth anything post 30.

In XI the jobs you unlocked later werent advanced versions of what you already had, it was a different system. You were just unlocking the classes that came in later expansions.

Classes in XIV were the original from 1.0. When XIV first launched there wasn't much distinction between any of the classes aside from what weapon your character was holding. Jobs streamlined it a bit more, which sounds like it's being dumbed down but it was really just making each class/job more unique to itself. After jobs were introduced the plan was that classes would be for solo content and jobs for group, but aside from some very specific situations, there's no reason to play a class once you unlock it's job.

So now going forward, there's no reason not to just roll the class and job into one thing. This way you're not doing one small storyline from 1-30, then another 30-50 (or 60 in the case of the expansion), you can devote that entire level range to one storyline and theme. The classes we have wont disappear, then they'd have to remove their quests and likely expand on the existing job ones to pre-30, it's just what we get moving forwards.

[Brianmj]

Is because they can't be bothered to make the base classes worth anything. In 11 people still had reasons to stay a WHM or aTHF even after openning up later jobs. Square didn't bother to make these classes worth anything post 30.

WHM and THF were jobs. We just didn't have to unlock them like advanced jobs. Classes in ff14 are equivalent to subjobs in ff11, in that they're a time sink.

[Slick]

Is because they can't be bothered to make the base classes worth anything. In 11 people still had reasons to stay a WHM or aTHF even after openning up later jobs. Square didn't bother to make these classes worth anything post 30.

And that stinks.

[DrOstler]

Because base classes are extremely pointless. It only makes sense for Arcanist