Done!

[Felis]

Because you looking at them alone, combine 2 or all 3 methodes and you get a nice system!
You cover the brickwall with timeconsuming and maybe the last backup with cashshop (as the easy part).

So long the cash shop weapon is ilevel 1 with no stats. So you only buy vanity weapon skin and no power.

But that's the point.
Everyone can get it.
There is no skill involved.

Patience is involved. Patience and willpower.
Both can be very challenging for some people.

[LunaHoshino]

How would it be a trophy then if everyone can get it?

Because not everyone DOES get it. And that's fine. You want a weapon that shows off how much skill you have? Go get the weapons from T9, T13, or Shiva, or upgrade your Ironworks weapon. There are four options there if you want a "challenge."

The relic weapon doesn't require a static or hours of practice. It's an option for those people who either don't have the skill to get the others or just simply don't want to. You're crying over them making ONE WEAPON OPTION available to players who don't do Coil or the EX Primals (two, technically, if you count the normal Ironworks weapon). Four versus two. How much more entitled do you get?

[Phe]

So long the cash shop weapon is ilevel 1 with no stats. So you only buy vanity weapon skin and no power.


Patience is involved. Patience and willpower.

willpower? more boredom.

patience? certainly not.
because that would imply, people who don't do the relic quest are impatient.

they just don't have so much time.
people who have a lot, a LOT of time to spend,
and who are bored - they do it.

to kill time.

[Meshico]

willpower? more boredom.

patience? certainly not.
because that would imply, people who don't do the relic quest are impatient.

they just don't have so much time.
people who have a lot, a LOT of time to spend,
and who are bored - they do it.

to kill time.

You have the time, it's just you do not wish to allocate it to the relic quest line.

In the end "a lot" of time is spent regardless, it's just how you choose to condense/spread it.

I will go as far as saying, people who say "I don't have time!" I'll take that as "I don't have time...for that!"



-Tari

[hallena]

willpower? more boredom.

patience? certainly not.
because that would imply, people who don't do the relic quest are impatient.

they just don't have so much time.
people who have a lot, a LOT of time to spend,
and who are bored - they do it.

to kill time.

The only difference between a guy who play 24/7 and the guy who play 1 hour a day is how fast both will get their relic. If you play for a hour then log for the night your atma, book, light or materia will not magically dissapear. You don't need to play 10 hours straight to make progress. Going from novus to nexus is a 50-60hours playtime grind for everyone, Doesn't matter if it take you 3 days or 3 months.

[IfritReborn]

Dear OP...

Unsubscribe and go here, Fun. There you will find some games cheaper than FFXIV that will provide you with the fun you need in your limited time. Everyone has different breaking points, everyone has tolerances and everyone has their limits. You've reached yours. Some of the others have not reached it and may never have. RNG may have favoured them or they may have a very high tolerance for grinds. You do not. You're not entitled, you're not whiny, you're tired and need a break. Take it. You might be lucky and be able to break all emotional attachment to this game, and find permanent enjoyment elsewhere.

Good luck to you my friend.

[ECHOxLegend]

I just started playing and I know enough to know that a good chunk of lalafells aren't the calm type

[ZephyrK]

The only difference between a guy who play 24/7 and the guy who play 1 hour a day is how fast both will get their relic. If you play for a hour then log for the night your atma, book, light or materia will not magically dissapear. You don't need to play 10 hours straight to make progress. Going from novus to nexus is a 50-60hours playtime grind for everyone, Doesn't matter if it take you 3 days or 3 months.

I don't want to hop into the middle of some debate, but you cannot get your relic quest completed in 1 hour a night if you are playing certain classes. Many of those low level dungeons have an hour queue time just to enter, much less complete it.

[Shioban]

willpower? more boredom.

patience? certainly not.
because that would imply, people who don't do the relic quest are impatient.

they just don't have so much time.
people who have a lot, a LOT of time to spend,
and who are bored - they do it.

to kill time.

^ This.

Between raid-lock outs, here's not much else on offer at the moment sadly.

So I decided to do a relic weapon to fill the gap.


Arguably there is a little bit of patience involved.
•The Original Atma Drop-Rate
•Waiting on FATE's for the books
•Grinding Soldiery for the books
•Grinding the Alexandrite through soldiery/hunts
•DPS Dungeon Queues
•Zodiac Dungeon "Atma" drop-rates
•Zodiac Grand Company Seals/Gil/Soldiery Grind

The entire quest line is a test of your consistency and general patience for an atrociously boring monotonous grind "How long can you go before your patience runs out and you cry "I AM SO BORED"."

[hallena]

The entire quest line is a test of your consistency and general patience for an atrociously boring monotonous grind "How long can you go before your patience runs out and you cry "I AM SO BORED"."

This Atrociously grind is how long it took you to gain one level in older mmos.
What's your suggestion? If you tell me "it should be challenging" then i'll link you to my previous post

Keep in mind that when you come up with your challenge. Zodiac is lvl 125 with customisable stats which make it better than 130 ironwork to some class while ironwork is 120 and require minimum T11 down and only one person per week have access to it aswell as waiting 3 weeks worth of poetic caping.
But you also need to make your challenge accessible to everyone or else people will complain.