Relic quest streamlined

[SinSilverwing]

Are there any steps we can do on another job?

[Teryaani]

That'd piss off a whooooooole lot of people, I've got a Zodiac NIN and a Nexus DRG which was hell, if they simplify it like half the amount of Atma required, cut the amount of Animus Books required to 4-5 and reduce the amount of Light required for Nexus to say 1000 then I'd be furious.

Personally I think the 3.0 Relic/Zodiac Questline should require a completed Zodiac from 2.0 to continue it, or perhaps if anyone hasn't completed it and has bought the expansion then have a seperate Questline for a less powerful equivilent.

It definitely should require the 2.0 relic. Given what they've done so far, I'd suspect that SE will simply up the drop rates more and the fate spawn rates and the like to help new players along.

Are there any steps we can do on another job?

If you have another relic at the right stage (zenith), I think you can farm ATMAs. Alexandrite gathering maybe?

[Coatl]

Are there any steps we can do on another job?

Zenith ---> Atma. You can acquire Atmas as any class as long as you have a zenith.
Animus ---> Novus. You can gather alexandrites as any class, you can gather them through:

1. Do your daily expert roullete once a day (only gives you an alexandrite once you have an animus).
2. Turning in 200 seals for 1 alexandrite.
3. Turning in 400 Soldiery for 1 alexandrite.
4. Doing fates with an Animus, Novus or Nexus equipped.

Nexus ---> Zodiac. You can run the specified dungeons as any class and you'll be able to obtain the item as long as you complete the dungeon.

So the only steps that require you to be a specific class is Atma ---> Animus, and novus ---> Nexus.

[Felis]

Are there any steps we can do on another job?

Once unlocked:
- Atma farming (need only a job with a Zenith)
- Alexandrite Map dailies
- key items from dungeons
- stuff you buy with tomes or GC seals (except the Animus books)

The first weapon need the longest, because you have to unlock everything first. Once unlocked you can farm specific items for the next relic before the next relic is at those steps.

[jojober]

To those saying SE won't streamline the relic quest for 3.0 and piss off lots people in the process, might I remind you of the people super mad when their 1.xx progress was lost due to the simplification of the quest.

[Shioban]

To those saying SE won't streamline the relic quest for 3.0 and piss off lots people in the process, might I remind you of the people super mad when their 1.xx progress was lost due to the simplification of the quest.

They already did.

Easy to obtain Thavnarian Mist.
Higher Atma Drop-Rate
Cheaper Books
Cheaper Alexandrite Maps
Alexandrite via the Hunts Vendor.


A LOT has been nerfed so far, it can only be nerfed more-so for the latter stages in 2.5/3.0 (which is most definitely will be)

[Ulthimar]

IMO They will either streamline the relic, or introduce a new questline for a new relic. Based on past MMO's, they will need to as outleveled content becomes empty. As for the people who will rage as they had to do all that work, that's nothing new, people rage daily for no good reason, or the same reason over and over. It wouldn't be the first time a MMO has done this to their relic questlines as new content comes out, and in turn makes everyone who put in the hundreds of hours prior very upset, but dev's only look at the majority, not the minority.

[SinSilverwing]

Thanks everyone for the tips and interesting discussion!

[Raiya]

I would say they'll nerf the atma to animus stage at the very least by 2.5 even further as to streamline the process more expecially with newer quests for 3.0. Hoping they reduce the amount of books even or at least the amount of objectives from those books to make it quicker to complete in a day or 2. As for 3.0 and beyond I dont expect the physical level increase to be that big a difference at least at launch in anyways and theres plenty of space for an easy upgrade to be put in.

[Doki]

People complain about the tedium or "high gil cost" of relics in XIV... I'm still braced for the eventual soul crushingly long/impossible grind like XI's relics. Eventually we're going to get a step that's like "We need to melt down 10,000 Allagaan unobtainium pieces" which drop 1~2 per weekly endgame raid and all 24 people can lot need on them.