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    Player Skyl1n3's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathscythe343 View Post
    they will probably have to streamline the upgrade quests, so you may not need to gather everything if that is the case.
    That'd piss off a whooooooole lot of people, I've got a Zodiac NIN and a Nexus DRG which was hell, if they simplify it like half the amount of Atma required, cut the amount of Animus Books required to 4-5 and reduce the amount of Light required for Nexus to say 1000 then I'd be furious.

    Personally I think the 3.0 Relic/Zodiac Questline should require a completed Zodiac from 2.0 to continue it, or perhaps if anyone hasn't completed it and has bought the expansion then have a seperate Questline for a less powerful equivilent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyl1n3 View Post
    Personally I think the 3.0 Relic/Zodiac Questline should require a completed Zodiac from 2.0 to continue it.
    I agree 100%! The only thing I'd like to see and which wouldn't piss me off to no end is a reduced cost to alexandrite with allied seals, the amount of tomes for maps and an increase in alexandrite drop rate from fates, or let us get them form FATEs with other jobs. That would not bother me. It should always be 12 atmas because there is 12 zodiac symbols. The amount of books should stay the same too. Maybe make the fates for books spawn at least once a hour. That part got old fast. If you grind out each book they should only take about 3 hours each. That's mostly from FATE waiting. Team up with a healer or tank friend for the dungeon part to skip out on the wait. So far I've not found any part of the relic quest to horrible. I'm only on the alexandrite phase, 30/75, so that's probably why cheaper and easier to get alexandrite wouldn't bother me.
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    Idk I would be pretty happy if they made all the quests easier. I have a zodiac weapon so far, a Nexus, a novus and an up and coming animus for my WHM so you bet I would be thrilled if they made some steps easier.

    No one complained when they nerfed atmas unless to complain about it not happening sooner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coatl View Post
    Idk I would be pretty happy if they made all the quests easier. I have a zodiac weapon so far, a Nexus, a novus and an up and coming animus for my WHM so you bet I would be thrilled if they made some steps easier.

    No one complained when they nerfed atmas unless to complain about it not happening sooner.
    My plan is to hopefully be done with animus and novus b4 patch 2.5. Then I can do zodiac and nexus stage at the same time ( because I already have a zodiac ). So between doing the zodiac part and running the crap out of 2.5 content, my nexus should be a breeze and should both wrap up at the same time maybe.

    I would be thrilled also if they ease up on this crap, I in no way wish others to have the same pain xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyl1n3 View Post
    That'd piss off a whooooooole lot of people, I've got a Zodiac NIN and a Nexus DRG which was hell, if they simplify it like half the amount of Atma required, cut the amount of Animus Books required to 4-5 and reduce the amount of Light required for Nexus to say 1000 then I'd be furious.

    Personally I think the 3.0 Relic/Zodiac Questline should require a completed Zodiac from 2.0 to continue it, or perhaps if anyone hasn't completed it and has bought the expansion then have a seperate Questline for a less powerful equivilent.
    Yeah, that's not going the happen.

    Could you imagine trying to find parties for the Zodiac quests when you're at lvl 60?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyl1n3 View Post
    That'd piss off a whooooooole lot of people, I've got a Zodiac NIN and a Nexus DRG which was hell, if they simplify it like half the amount of Atma required, cut the amount of Animus Books required to 4-5 and reduce the amount of Light required for Nexus to say 1000 then I'd be furious.

    Personally I think the 3.0 Relic/Zodiac Questline should require a completed Zodiac from 2.0 to continue it, or perhaps if anyone hasn't completed it and has bought the expansion then have a seperate Questline for a less powerful equivilent.
    It definitely should require the 2.0 relic. Given what they've done so far, I'd suspect that SE will simply up the drop rates more and the fate spawn rates and the like to help new players along.

    Quote Originally Posted by SinSilverwing View Post
    Are there any steps we can do on another job?
    If you have another relic at the right stage (zenith), I think you can farm ATMAs. Alexandrite gathering maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyl1n3 View Post
    That'd piss off a whooooooole lot of people, I've got a Zodiac NIN and a Nexus DRG which was hell, if they simplify it like half the amount of Atma required, cut the amount of Animus Books required to 4-5 and reduce the amount of Light required for Nexus to say 1000 then I'd be furious.

    Personally I think the 3.0 Relic/Zodiac Questline should require a completed Zodiac from 2.0 to continue it, or perhaps if anyone hasn't completed it and has bought the expansion then have a seperate Questline for a less powerful equivilent.
    This seems unlikely to happen, so I would prepare to be furious. This is because it people whom start the game with the expansion would have to do these things with with overwhelming majority of the population not doing this content anymore. Completing the fates and dungeons would take forever.

    More than likely the current relic will achieve its final form prior to the expansion. A new relic quest will begin with the expansion so that all players can be on the same footing.

    If they do make the previous relic required to start the 3.0 relic they will likely create a series of, rather simple, quests that will serve as the upgrades themselves so that players, both new and old, can then start the new relic quest line.
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    Last edited by Deathscythe343; 12-30-2014 at 02:08 PM.

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    Player Skyl1n3's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathscythe343 View Post
    If they do make the previous relic required to start the 3.0 relic they will likely create a series of, rather simple, quests that will serve as the upgrades themselves so that players, both new and old, can then start the new relic quest line.
    But then that should be the reward for those who put the time and effort into the current Zodiac questline, maybe don't make it so it's an integral part of 3.0 but more likely an optional questline where-in if you happen to have a finished Zodiac weapon from 2.0 then good news we'll be continuing/supporting the expansion of the Legendary weapons in 3.0 which will take them onto a whole new level surpassing even the Zodiac Braves status of weaponry.

    I don't disagree on making it more streamline like reducing the Animus book cost, slightly increasing the Atma drop rate even further, making Alexandrite a bit cheaper say 100 Allied Seals per unit or 250 Soldiery per Alex map and also increasing the certain infamous FATE's from once every 3-4 hours to every 30 mins, then I'd have no problem.

    Has anything official been stated about a Relic/Legendary weapon questline in 3.0 out of curiosity, I'd like to get an official statement on it so I can either be appeased or pissed off prior to 3.0's launch :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyl1n3 View Post
    Has anything official been stated about a Relic/Legendary weapon questline in 3.0 out of curiosity, I'd like to get an official statement on it so I can either be appeased or pissed off prior to 3.0's launch :P
    No statement as of yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyl1n3 View Post
    But then that should be the reward for those who put the time and effort into the current Zodiac questline, maybe don't make it so it's an integral part of 3.0 but more likely an optional questline where-in if you happen to have a finished Zodiac weapon from 2.0 then good news we'll be continuing/supporting the expansion of the Legendary weapons in 3.0 which will take them onto a whole new level surpassing even the Zodiac Braves status of weaponry.



    Has anything official been stated about a Relic/Legendary weapon questline in 3.0 out of curiosity, I'd like to get an official statement on it so I can either be appeased or pissed off prior to 3.0's launch :P
    From what all the people that completed the relic or are continuing to do them, your reward is the grind. Wanting people to have to do the same thing you did just to be able to get the new relic quest is absurd and selfish. Like one poster said, why would they do that to make people have to farm old content that you and others will not even play anymore..unless you want them to force you to play said content over again doing more RNG grinding. The whole point of them creating new relic quest is to fix the awful system they have in place now. Yes you spent all your time doing it. Like many hardcore enthusiast have said, it was your choice. You should have known that it was a possibility that they would end it. So you just will have a type of weapon that most people probably won't have. Braggin rights. Congrats. But to alienate a large portion of the community so you can have something to brag about...I don't think SE wants that. It would in now way be fair to anyone who either hasn't had the time or just started to force them to have to do content that, even though they nerfed the requirements, they didn't nerf the damn DF times. So any nerf they add is cancelled out by having to wait to do content that not many are doing when you started your relic quest. So, best thing they could do? Revamp relic system, reintroduce it with new expansion, and for all of the Hardcore that are upset that it makes their relic weapon they spent months working towards( which are already obsolete anyways), take one for the team.
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