Relic quest streamlined

[Ceodore]

See thats not gonna work, cause you would be punishing new players and new players to be. Now what i think that could be a compromise is to have existing relics ba able to be turned in for maybe some type of materia or something that will give your new relic additional stats depending on lvl of relic turned in. That I can deal with, because people that put in time will have at least something for the time, or they could just keep the weapon and glamour it. But to force new players or slower players to backtrack will be problematic.

I don't think they were necessarily saying the new or slower players have to backtrack... that wouldn't really be the proper words to use. Essentially, it would be kind of like what you suggested. The players who have the newest and shiniest relic going into 3.0 would be able to keep the customized stats on their relics. Those who are still on Novus, Nexus or Zodiac (which will be outdated as soon as 2.5/2.51 comes out) could either trade in their current relic for an upgraded relic weapon with no stat customizations, or complete quests that have been made easier to finish their relic to the point coming out in 2.5/2.51, and then maybe continue it on the same quest line as the 3.0 relic, but with the customized stats. New players or new players to be aren't being punished at all really, they simply have a choice, either do the relic quest line from 2.0-2.5/2.51 made easier, or just skip all that and get a relic weapon from the 3.0 without the customized stats, just the stats in the base line ilvl 80 relic, only buffed up to be on par with the ilvl the new relic begins at.

This isn't punishment, it's choices. Either spend time to customize, or skip that and take what you're given. Either way, you have the new relic weapon, just the people who would like to feel that their time, gil, and effort weren't just a waste would get their wish. Also, your suggestion is quite viable and good too. Just trade in your current relic for a material, or maybe a scroll, or book, or some other meaningless medium with no real rhyme or reason, which will alter the 3.0 relic's stats to those of your 2.5/2.51 relic weapon, and make those stats 3.0 equivalent. In essence, just continuing what has already been worked on so hard. So yeah, both of your suggestions were really the same, only you kind of just got hung up on the punishment part. In the end, it's really the same results with the same effect. I don't think Axe was suggesting that they do away entirely with the 2.0-2.5/2.51 relic line, just that they give the option of either taking the easy way out, or putting in some work (much less work than what players who already have Zodiac have put in) to be able to customize your relic weapon.

[axemtitanium]

Yeah I chose the wrong word. "Punishment" isn't what I'm going for. "Missing out" is closer. Players who opt for the easy "skip to final stage" relic quest "miss out" on the ability to customize their stats to what they want.

[SinSilverwing]

Wow. Did not expect this but loving how the thread went. The uh scrolls to customize the stats... Is there a place that has that step detailed to get the best possible set ups for each weapon or is kinda you're on your own?

But ya to help newer players I'd like them to reduce costs or raise the RNG rates to reduce the amount of time people have to spend on each stage. The amount of enemies you kill I don't see changing since even during the relic reborn you had to kill 8 of each enemy.

They may change the dungeons you have to go to for some steps. But ultimately at some point I think they will add in a skip step that takes you to a later stage but without the customized stats.

[t-a-l-a-n-m-e-r-c-e-r]

A good solution would be to make the steps post atma doable at the same time. So when you start gathering animus books you could gather alexandrite, gain zodiac light and do the dungeon quests at the same time. They would have to tweak the quest so that it's the zodiac glass gathering light and not the weapon itself. I think it's a good compromise, nothing is directly made easier. Just a bit of multitasking.

[axemtitanium]

A good solution would be to make the steps post atma doable at the same time. So when you start gathering animus books you could gather alexandrite, gain zodiac light and do the dungeon quests at the same time. They would have to tweak the quest so that it's the zodiac glass gathering light and not the weapon itself. I think it's a good compromise, nothing is directly made easier. Just a bit of multitasking.

You can already do that for every single step except for Nexus light, for 2nd relic and beyond. Alexandrite can be stocked up forever and the Zodiac quest items are stackable too so you can basically have those 4 repeatable quests active forever in case you get roulette'd into a required dungeon and have a chance at the dungeon drop.

[RiceisNice]

You can already do that for every single step except for Nexus light, for 2nd relic and beyond. Alexandrite can be stocked up forever and the Zodiac quest items are stackable too so you can basically have those 4 repeatable quests active forever in case you get roulette'd into a required dungeon and have a chance at the dungeon drop.

Last I checked, the zodiac items (dungeon drop ones, which honestly are the only ones worth talking about in the entire step) are quest items; you can't stack them or store them away.

[axemtitanium]

The Flawless Alexandrite, Book of Skylight, etc. rewards from the repeatable quests are stackable.

[Doki]

Nerf: "Oh hey, my retainer just brought me another Flawless Alexandrite again" *discards*