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    Player
    Miitan's Avatar
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    Puchichi Puchi
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    Odin
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by BiBi___ View Post
    it's like timing out someone in a stream chat on twitch, or giving them a temp forum ban.

    ie. things get heated, can stop someone from saying something nasty, that they might regret in the future.
    Your FC sounds like a fun place to be...
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    Franz Renatus
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    At the same time though, many FCs are run with a group of officers in a semi-professional manner. I know if a previous company I was in, we -did- have people who would go overboard about a given topic, and then regrett everything they did the day after because stuff blew up. Were they bad people? No. Did they not their limits or when to stop (or perhaps recognize when to stop)? Possibly.

    A temp mute wouldn't be so bad if there was a warning system in place. Something like "X Officer has requested a temporary mute on Player Y. Will other officers A, B, C approve?" As any of the voting-based features in the game, of course there will be those who will abuse it. But just like the voting features, it will also be helpful to many as well.

    ...think about vote dismiss. Some abuse it, others use it when someone is actually AFK, Harrasing, etc.
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    Lexia Lightress
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    A time out feature could be useful but depends on the management of the FC, cause if you just kick someone without warning then they are bad leaders and don't mean warning in FC chat. If they serious about hey you out of line you need to stop then needs to taken to private tells and then continues then get kicked. Does your boss yell at you in front of everyone at work? If so refer to my previous comment about them being a bad leader. So that why I say a time out option could be useful depending on the management of the FC.
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    Mirasa Thume
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    It wouldn't help the "Things are getting heated, perhaps you guys should cool off for a bit." But hypothetically, if You wanted the option to shun a single person in your FC, but didn't want to be as drastic as booting a person or Blacklisting them, a smaller FC could have a secondary Link Shell they can exclude people from. No one responding can kill a person's desire to talk pretty much.
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    Wobble Wibblewobb
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    Start a strike penalty system. After so many they get booted or excluded from FC events for a period of time.
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    Nephera Habasi
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    there probably should be something in between not being able to do anything to someone misbehaving that you are willing to give a second chance and 300k room ransom.
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    Rika Shinozaki'
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    To those mention in room prices, that is completely irrelevent. By joining an fc, it's saying that what you contribute or put in, is beneficial in some way to the group. Causing trouble and enmity is the exact opposite of what the fc is for, unless stated otherwise. By going against it, you are risking what you put in, whether it be a room, gil in the chest, or items. By causing trouble, you put all of it at ris of being lost

    I left my last fc because, after standing up to another player and being thanked for it, even, the disrepectful and insulting player was defended by the fc master, citing that he "knew them in real life"
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    Last edited by monochromicorn; 12-31-2014 at 06:02 PM.

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    Rika Shinozaki'
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    Still, you're first thought when a problem comes up shouldn't be to mute someone, regardless oof what is said. If they are really that rude, why do you want to keep them? And if they arent actually that bad a lot of the time, and thing get out of hand, let them take responsibility on their own.
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    Stihl Lodeing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edeline View Post
    Muting someone wouldn't solve anything in a heated argument. If anything, would make them even angrier...snip.... If the situation requires someone being kicked, muting won't help anyway.
    Seeing if someone gets more angry can be advantageous. People can really show their true colors and surprise the hell out of you when they're angry. Muting them is not for kicking them. It's a purgatory. You don't do it with the intention of kicking them, you do it with the intention of finding out what was said and what happened.

    Nothing irritates me more than racial slurs, jokes about disabilities, sexual preference cracks, etcetera. As people get comfortable with each other jokes like these or jokes similar in nature tend to surface. Saying something as simple and innocent as "that's retarded" can rub someone the wrong way. Free Company chat/voice chat is a tool shared by all, things are going to happen.

    A time out chat is an easy way for officers and owners to take a few people aside in a completely objective fashion and say "Okay what happened?"

    It's a tool for larger guilds with officers who are involved and accessible. Of course a bad league officer could abuse it, but they would abuse the tools they have anyway. Having this as a chat option wouldn't hurt anything at all and be a positive imo.

    Quote Originally Posted by monochromicorn View Post
    ...snip... If they are really that rude, why do you want to keep them?
    Some people just have a bad day once and a while. Some people are really active in their respective leagues, donate a lot of time and monies, and have some tenure. A good officer will think twice before just kicking someone and saying, "talk to me later".

    More often than not, a good officer with good tools can make something good out of a bad situation.
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    Alexandria Chevalier
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stihllodeing View Post
    Snip. More often than not, a good officer with good tools can make something good out of a bad situation.
    This person has a good grasp of the kinds of tools effective leadership can really take advantage of. Time out chat or muting is not meant to be a punishment, but a form of discipline, and despite the connotations, that is not a bad thing. Sometimes people just need a small bop on the head to straighten them out, and preventing them from making things worse by continuing an argument would help save relationships between members of a group. Concerns about the potential to abuse a mute function are not indicative of a broken tool, but of broken leadership, and if you find yourselves in a free company whose leaders WOULD abuse it, you probably wouldn't want to be in that free company in the first place.
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