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Thread: Brd opener

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    Brd opener

    New to bard end game. For FCoB, should I use all my CDat the start of the fight?
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    it depends on a few things. how much time you have till the boss does a break phase, how much time till the adds appear, how strong are the adds, what mechanics are coming up that can really make you screw yourself etc.

    for example we'll use ramuh. a good opener is to apply both dots, pop cooldowns, in between those cooldowns use straight shot and any bloodletters that proc, a dex potion is completely up to you and depends on your healers/group. from there i just keep up my dots, straight shot and hit any bloodletters since his adds come around 63% blood and internal release will be ready together. so for the first add i pop those two with flame arrow. then for the second i use hawk eye with barrage. third get's raging strikes with flame arrow.

    some people pop them all together for increased dps on parsers but it can make other phases go slower that way. just judge fight by fight and you'll do fine but always stick with your dots first, straight shot and then heavy shot-bloodletter.
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    Btw when ahould dots be reapplied?
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    about 3 seconds till your first dot is about to wear off. always keep up both dots and straight shot.
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    This is the rotation I use:

    Windbite (Bloodletter) > Venomous Bite (Hawk's Eye + Blunt Arrow*) > Straight Shot (Blood for Blood, Raging Strikes) > Heavy Shot (Internal Release + Barrage) > filler (Flaming Arrow + Repelling Shot**) > filler until DoT reapplication

    Here are some things to note about this rotation:
    1) Filler means Heavy Shot unless you have a Straighter Shot proc. If you get a proc, use it then go back to using Heavy Shot until you get another proc or you have to reapply DoTs.
    2) Bloodletter's recast timer may reset during the opener, which accommodates for such a situation. Quickly weave it in and go back to where you left off in your opener.
    3) If you're using a HQ X-Potion of Dexterity, use it after Internal Release and before Barrage.
    4) This is the most important point: this rotation lets you reapply your DoTs without having to sacrifice TP and DPS to clip them. This opener offers better DPS than the traditional Straight Shot opener.

    *Blunt Arrow is optional if you need it for silencing duties, or your skill speed is too high for you to weave it in without being locked by the animation.
    **Similar to Blunt Arrow, you have to be selective in weaving in Repelling Shot not only due to animation lock, but position as well. You don't want to jump into something that can kill you like lingering AoEs or death walls.
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    Last edited by SlyRoyale; 12-14-2014 at 04:12 PM. Reason: Expanded post. 1k character limit sucks.

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    About Foe requiem, do I have to be near the enemy for the increased damage (from magic) do be applied to it? does it apply to caster LB?

    also, for does ballad or paeon have any range?
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    Foe will appear on the enemy if it's close enough. You cannot be max range for For to be on, you must be closer.
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    here's what I shared in another thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ChriZirhC View Post
    here's my rotation:

    off global cooldown order - bloodletter(reapply whenever available) > hawkeye > raging strikes > blood for blood > barrage
    you weave these between global cooldowns. if you have a good ping you can insert 2-3 of these in every global cooldown. if misery's end and bloodletter are both available prioritize misery's end, but again if you have a good ping you can cast them both.

    global cooldown priority - straight shot > windbite > venomous bite > heavy shot(filler)
    once you have like 5-6 seconds left on hawkeye, reapply your dots. always prioritize your dots before anything else and clip them whenever a buff is about to expire(with the exception that straight shot is about to expire)

    buff rotation after opener:
    internal release
    hawkeye + b4b + barrage
    internal release + raging strikes

    hope this helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyRoyale View Post
    This is the rotation I use:
    please explain to me how the "traditional" way of opening up with straight shot before your dots, parses lower dps than your rotation.

    And why would use use blunt arrow from the start. While im confused why so many bards dont bother using Blunt arrow and repelling shot. I have always used them at the bottom of my priority list. I don't know maybe im missing something, curious

    This is what im personally using as a standard rotation. without pots and with BloodletterMisery always on cooldown

    (Quelling strikes) pre pull (Internal Release) StraightShot (HawkesEye) Windbite (Raging Strikes)Venoms Bite (BfB) Filler Heavy Shot/Str. Shot procs (Barrage) and I will weave in Flame Arrow, Repelling Shot and Blunt between my fillers and procs. My dots generally are reapplied with less than 3 seconds.
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    Last edited by Lemuel81; 12-27-2014 at 02:19 AM.

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