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    Korilynn's Avatar
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    On my Monk, I use Mantra. Maybe not all the time, but I use it

    As for Goad, I just got it myself, and realized I can't see anyone's TP bar. So, if they don't ask, I can't give it to them, or I can guess, but then I could be wasting it for when someone does need it. Best to just use it when someone asks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korilynn View Post
    On my Monk, I use Mantra. Maybe not all the time, but I use it

    As for Goad, I just got it myself, and realized I can't see anyone's TP bar. So, if they don't ask, I can't give it to them, or I can guess, but then I could be wasting it for when someone does need it. Best to just use it when someone asks.
    Not really. Goad slowly restores tp, it's not an instant refresh like invigorate. If you would see tp bars and use it once you see someone get's short on tp, it's almost too late. Goad is more about preventing to even get too low, or to prevent someone from having to use invigorate, so it's more about 'knowing' when to use it rather than 'seeing' it.
    In raids this is relatively easy, since most groups have a set rotation for goad (i.e. first one goes to the monk 30 seconds into the fight, second one goes to bard as soon as it's up again), though this is not as effective anymore since nin tp nerfs (bard has to play paeon anyway)...
    For other stuff like dungeons, i just give it to the tank whenever it's up, especially if it's a war.
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    Last edited by MrCookTM; 12-30-2014 at 06:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCookTM View Post
    Not really. Goad slowly restores tp, it's not an instant refresh like invigorate. If you would see tp bars and use it once you see someone get's short on tp, it's almost too late. Goad is more about preventing to even get too low, or to prevent someone from having to use invigorate, so it's more about 'knowing' when to use it rather than 'seeing' it.
    This.

    Tp issues in dungeons usually dont arise on bosses so you dont need to goad there but your primary concern are big trash pulls where everyone is AOE'ing.
    Also giving goad to them when they are already out of tp means its too late, since the tp refresh of goad is too small to counter the high tp costs of AOE's, its rather meant to slow down the act of actually running out, which means you can sort of give goad very early into the pull.

    TL,DR: Give goad when there is a big trash pull to one of these guys: MNK/NIN/BRD/DRG/WAR

    Also minor gripe since i have seen it being done by a lot of NINs, PLDs dont need goad for AOE since they use MP for flash. Give it to the other dps instead.
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    Last edited by ChaozK; 12-29-2014 at 10:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCookTM View Post
    Not really. Goad slowly restores tp, it's not an instant refresh like invigorate. If you would see tp bars and use it once you see someone get's short on tp, it's almost too late. Goad is more about preventing to even get too low, or to prevent someone from having to use invigorate, so it's more about 'knowing' when to use it rather than 'seeing' it.

    For other stuff like dungeons, i just give it to the tank whenever it's up, especially if it's a war.
    I didn't realize it was a refresher, and not a instant boost like Invigorate. However, I did start just giving it to the WAR/MDR tanks, as I recall with my MDR Overpower could drain me, so I did make them a priority with it.
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