is there some rule against using goad?

[lxChrisxl]

well mantra too i guess. ninjas and monks act like mantra and goad will give them an std if they use it. why? D:

[Lilyarel]

Maybe Square should let us see ally TP and maybe these issues will go away. Hint hint nudge nudge Square.

[Hyunckel]

Maybe Square should let us see ally TP and maybe these issues will go away. Hint hint nudge nudge Square.

I heard they're already at the limits concerning the HUD UI. Cause the PS3 couldn't handle more stuff on screen already.

Also it's not only Ninjas not using Goad (which is single target and requires some reactivity and/or mouseover macro to be optimal I guess) but Bards as well, despite not obligatory doing the highest dps, don't use Paeon when asked to LOL

[lxChrisxl]

i've been hoping and praying they would give us a tp bar already. really no point in not having one. especially when you can use 3rd party programs to get one

[Darkstride]

When a Ninja is focused on keeping 2 DoTs up, TA up, Huton up, and possibly Dancing Edge while also not screwing up their rotation, then they may not be prioritizing Goad, especially since they have no TP visibility.

Another thing is that sometimes the NIN does use it at random due to lack of TP visibility, but then the tank asks for it when it's on cooldown and then doesn't understand why they didn't get it.

If you need it, ask for it. Communication is the best way to make Goad effective. Otherwise, you'll probably just get it when you get it, but don't expect it to be your TP savior all the time. Goad is a luxury ability - content can be completed without it, it just makes some situations a little more comfortable.

[lxChrisxl]

When a Ninja is focused on keeping 2 DoTs up, TA up, Huton up, and possibly Dancing Edge while also not screwing up their rotation, then they may not be prioritizing Goad, especially since they have no TP visibility.

Another thing is that sometimes the NIN does use it at random due to lack of TP visibility, but then the tank asks for it when it's on cooldown and then doesn't understand why they didn't get it.

If you need it, ask for it. Communication is the best way to make Goad effective. Otherwise, you'll probably just get it when you get it, but don't expect it to be your TP savior all the time. Goad is a luxury ability - content can be completed without it, it just makes some situations a little more comfortable.

oh i've asked, i've seen tanks ask, hell i've even seen other ninjas ask lol. also when you're doing a speed run of a dungeon and you see a bard using his aoe's to clear out mobs you know they're going to make full use of goad. not saying i don't ask but some times i shouldn't have to. same goes for mantra. i've been in ramuh groups where a monk mantra could have saved us and yet the monk either doesn't use it or will use it when people are at 60% or so and nothing major is happening :l

[Clarkamite]

oh i've asked, i've seen tanks ask, hell i've even seen other ninjas ask lol. also when you're doing a speed run of a dungeon and you see a bard using his aoe's to clear out mobs you know they're going to make full use of goad. not saying i don't ask but some times i shouldn't have to. same goes for mantra. i've been in ramuh groups where a monk mantra could have saved us and yet the monk either doesn't use it or will use it when people are at 60% or so and nothing major is happening :l

This is just a case of someone having really bad situational awareness and trying to look flashy by using a skill they have access to and know is useful in some sort of a situation. As a Monk I've always made sure to put up mantra before big AOE damage is going to go out. Or when I'm on my Ninja I'm sure to always give it to a TP user when we are AOE pulling.

[Garlyle]

Mantra honestly took a long time for me to get into the habit of using because it was just sort of there; it wasn't important to me Doing The Deeps or really directly relevant to my personal survival. So you just kinda... forget it's there sometimes.

Goad? Ninjas don't know if you lack TP if you don't tell 'em, 'cause the game doesn't display your TP bars. Sadly.

[RyuDragnier]

Mantra honestly took a long time for me to get into the habit of using because it was just sort of there; it wasn't important to me Doing The Deeps or really directly relevant to my personal survival. So you just kinda... forget it's there sometimes.

Goad? Ninjas don't know if you lack TP if you don't tell 'em, 'cause the game doesn't display your TP bars. Sadly.

I got into the habit of Mantra relatively quick back when I started T5. Twintania's Fireballs really did some serious damage to the party, and because of that I started using Mantra everytime it was up whenever that dragon targeted somebody in my particular 'group' for the fireballs. After that I started using it as a 'panic button' for when I feel the healer needs some extra oomph for their healing spells on the tanks, or whenever I see something big coming in primals or just bosses in general.

Goad however, I admit I still don't know when to use, but that's because as you said we do not have a TP bar that would allow us to see who needs it.

[lxChrisxl]

for goad i can tell you how to get a tp bar if you're on pc and willing. if not just go by what your tp is at if you have invigorate. if you're getting pretty low just assume your teammate is getting low as well since you can't always get that spare second to type goad