The whole the fish gets away thing...

[Gallus]

is brutally frustrating and annoyingly unfair, especially when you start chaining misses no matter what you try to fish, it's annoying as hell...yesterday, I tried Cornelia twice, escaped twice, I tried The Gobfather 5 times, escaped 5 times, tried Matriarch 7 times, escaped 7 times, tried The Drowned Sniper 6 times, escaped 6 times...even Old Softie and the Bloody Brewery (which are 2 star) escape twice each, WTF?

And I'm fully maxed with supra rod, 399 gathering. Honestly, I wouldn't mind lower catching rates but a bit more guaranteed once you reel in... I got extremely pissed when, in my 5th attempt at the Gobfather, a random elezen came, casted three times, on his third cast, silverfish HQ -> The Gobfather, he had forager's rod and a poorly melded fisher's set, I felt like throwing my controller onto the wall.

[Gallus]

Update: Cornelia escaped 9 times. Yay.

Edit: 14 times.

I simply have...no comments.

[Highwilds]

If I may say, according to the forums I think you might have too much perception in your gear.

[Jeckyl_Tesla]

If I may say, according to the forums I think you might have too much perception in your gear.

How does perception in any way stop you from reeling in a fish that requires 350 gathering?

Stuff like that is pure hearsay and speculation and I don't believe a word of it until a dev comes and tells me it's that way. Since RNG is a hard thing to prove.

[Highwilds]

There's no proofs of it or any sorts, and I don't know how to explain it. I'm sorry. I just remember taking off my forager's hat when I still had fisher's set with gathering melds only and got the first big fish up without problems.

[Nutz]

I thought the alleged issue was that perception makes the fish bigger and as such requires even higher gathering to reel them in, meaning that having perception much higher than gathering would more or less guarantee that you never catch anything. Well, I don't claim to actually know anything about it, but it would seem that something very wrong is happening with your FSH or you're a statistical anomaly.

[RiceisNice]

I thought the alleged issue was that perception makes the fish bigger and as such requires even higher gathering to reel them in, meaning that having perception much higher than gathering would more or less guarantee that you never catch anything. Well, I don't claim to actually know anything about it, but it would seem that something very wrong is happening with your FSH or you're a statistical anomaly.

But does an HQ fish/bigger fish require higher gathering to catch, or is gathering pertaining to the type of fish it is? Every mention I've seen of perception "increasing gathering rates requirement" have been really small sample sizes and could be seen as confirmation bias.

[Jeckyl_Tesla]

I thought the alleged issue was that perception makes the fish bigger and as such requires even higher gathering to reel them in, meaning that having perception much higher than gathering would more or less guarantee that you never catch anything. Well, I don't claim to actually know anything about it, but it would seem that something very wrong is happening with your FSH or you're a statistical anomaly.

That makes no sense. It works like this.

Each fish has two stats to it. The amount gathering needed in order to catch and the amount of perception needed to catch it in HQ. This can be seen in the Mahar, you need roughly 3230 perception in order to HQ it, otherwise you'll only catch NQ whch can't be mooched for Shoni.

That is all there is to it. Everything else are just theories that people make up in their head and then warp their findings around it.

[Gallus]

This is just lovely, LOVELY... so I decided to listen to peoples advice... dumped my forager's hat and my forager's boots, 391 gathering and 186 perception. Cornelia bites 5 more times, the fish gets away 5 times. What now? What the hell am I freaking supposed to do? Dance the manderville naked? I haven't seen a single person reporting problems with this stupid craptastic fish, I dread to imagine how much time I'm going to have to spend with stuff such as the matriarch from which I constantly hear horror stories.

[Shinzoku]

All I can say is just keep at it, Cornelia took me 7 or 8 tries as well, you'll get it eventually. I understand the rage just work with it. Sometimes you'll get to a hole and it'll take you 15 minutes sometimes it'll take days. Took me a long long long time to get Kuno but I got Shoni my 2nd or 3rd time fishing the window.