Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
iconic summon, stuff like that ^^ Odin is a primal here, not a random guy wandering around.

But yeah, would be the same thing if odin wasn't a summon.
i guess what I mean is that characters like Odin get a pass when they're almost identical in every Final Fantasy (but with different lore explanations as to why they exist), why doesn't Ultros? Because he isn't a primal?