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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    iconic summon, stuff like that ^^ Odin is a primal here, not a random guy wandering around.

    But yeah, would be the same thing if odin wasn't a summon.
    i guess what I mean is that characters like Odin get a pass when they're almost identical in every Final Fantasy (but with different lore explanations as to why they exist), why doesn't Ultros? Because he isn't a primal?
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    A true paladin... will sheathe his sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    You know: Lightning Returns Event... no, no connection at all
    Or lets say, if there is no dimensional rift somewhere!
    Sure, she didn't travel herself. I think it was Bhunivelze who send her to Eorzea as a test. He is a god after all
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    Um talking from Odin... Coil explained Bahamuth, but did not explain something about Odin... any news when this story continues?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Um talking from Odin... Coil explained Bahamuth, but did not explain something about Odin... any news when this story continues?
    Odin is being added as a new trial in 2.5 (the same one from Fan Fest) so we'll presumably get some answers then.
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    To OP, "A: Maehiro: To be absolutely clear, there is no direct connection between FFXIV’s Hydaelyn and FFXII’s Ivalice or even FFXI’s Vana’diel. They are not the same world in different dimensions or time—they are their own separate worlds. However, there are certain connections to people or objects that appear in these other worlds that figure into the story of FFXIV as it has been conceived and is being told."

    The fact is a lot of the dev that work on FFXIV also worked on FFXI and FFXII. Hate to burst your bubble but that's the real answer to your question. That doesn't mean creature or elements from those game won't creep into Eorzea but you won't be able to go to Ivalice or Vana'diel.
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    Ivalice is a planet, not a continent.

    Hydaelyn is a planet, Eorzea is a continent.

    Any Ivalice references is no different than other Final Fantasy references. Ivalice references may happen more because this game is made by many people who made Ivalice games.
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    Ivalice is a country, not a planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Ivalice is a country, not a planet.
    Ivalice (FFXII) and Eorzea are the same thing - a region made up of several continents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    Ivalice (FFXII) and Eorzea are the same thing - a region made up of several continents.
    Depends on the game
    The ORIGINAL Ivalice in FFT was a country, more specifically a very heavy British Isles+France analog, but then they decided they liked it and made it bigger. This is evidenced by the fact there's a single king of the land (the succession of whom is a major driving force for the War of the Lions).
    Now, Ivalice is basically "Europe" in its world, as evidenced by the fact it has at least two different countries, one of which is an empire bent on conquering the rest.
    Eorzea is more like the latter, being the "Western Europe" analog of its world, with the Garlean Empire representing "Eastern Europe," Doma representing Japan, and a few others I can't remember offhand.
    Chupon WAS a summon (under a different translated name) in a couple games, namely FFVII as "Typhoon". I think I remember Ultros showing up in a few other games as a standard enemy as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    Chupon WAS a summon (under a different translated name) in a couple games, namely FFVII as "Typhoon". I think I remember Ultros showing up in a few other games as a standard enemy as well.
    Yup! Chupon/Typhoon was a summon in FF7 And the Anime Final Fantasy Unlimited!


    The Soil Combination needed to summon Typhoon was:
    An infinity that surpasses the heavens Sky Blue
    A completeness that goes through solid ground Earth Brown
    The deception to hollow out a dimension Magic Violet

    Refernce: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92WfLEWe9-8&t=3m18s
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