Please no more "grind" relic quests before the expansion

[MasamuneBranford]

This is obviously just my opinion / rant (please nobody freak out). Here are my thoughts:

Why would SE release so many lengthy grind quests (nexus / zodiac) so close to the release of the expansion? When the expansion is released - who is going to want someone in a party with an item level 110 weapon earning light numbers? Who is going to be doing 2.0 dungeons for someone with a nexus working towards their zodiac drops? Why is there an expansion coming out in the Spring yet the biggest grind questline in the game is not finished? Isn't it time that the grind end and "challenge" quests be released?

I'm working towards a Novus while using a soldiery weapon (like many others who are still playing catch-up). Should we give up? I feel like it will be near impossible to earn a zodiac weapon come expansion (2.0 dungeons will be ghost towns). I'm fine with grind quests. But this close to the release of an expansion? Wouldn't it make sense to have the final relic quests available at least 6 months prior to an expansion? Maybe beat T13 or something for the next quest and nothing more (for those complaining - realize this will be fairly easy once the level cap goes up to 60).

[Prototype909]

Why would SE release so many lengthy grind quests (nexus / zodiac) so close to the release of the expansion? When the expansion is released - who is going to want someone in a party with an item level 110 weapon earning light numbers? Who is going to be doing 2.0 dungeons for someone with a nexus working towards their zodiac drops? Why is there an expansion coming out in the Spring yet the biggest grind questline in the game is not finished? Isn't it time that the grind end and "challenge" quests be released?

This is why the grind is here to stay

1) To keep people subbed with their iconic carrot on a stick quest-line
2) To keep old content populated even in the face of the expansion with all the steps which require you to farm/repeatedly enter old content - especially important since new players may join with the expansion's release (This is the big one, the entire Relic Questline is designed around keeping old content on life support)
3) The entire point of the Relic is to not be a "challenge" but rather a time-sink for players who can't or don't want to raid. In SE's eyes Coil is the "challenge" path and the way the game is arranged supports this conception of the two paths. It's the same reason why Relic has always been inferior to Raid drops until the very end of a patch cycle.

[Cyrus-Wallace]

Even though it's your opinion, you might want to understand that the relic quest is pretty much a timesink between patches. Something to keep you busy. As the patches are released, they're going to nerf the previous stages of the relic. As they did already. They increased the drop rate from Atmas, they decreased the sold cost from books. Alexandrite is now way easier to obtain compared to the times when the Novus questline was released, where you only were able to get them via dailies/mythos. The only "annoying" part of the quest... are the lights. Yeah, it sounded fun and interesting at first, but when you realize the amount of grind that it might require, you want to punch somebody in the nipple. The rest of the quests are easy going.

We are not sure if this questline will continue in the 3.0 or if they're going to throw it away and make a new system. Something that I'm sure, is that they're going to nerf the previous steps as I stated above. So far, better than you sword, you have T9 with the echo and Shiva's weapons, you can get these until you either down the second turn of the FCOB or when you finish your relic. You can beat said content with your sold weapon.

As a personal note, the only "hard" part is the Nexus, which takes a lot. The last phase of the zodiacal quest, is... uh... well, it depends a lot on RNG but it's not that bad. I've completed that quest twice and yeah, it's a bit frustrating but again... not that bad.

[kyuven]

As pretty much everyone else has said, it's their to keep people subbed. Remember that anything that isn't a timesink gets blown through in literally 2 days and then posted online.
SE needs something in the game that will keep you subbed until the next content update. If you can think of a better idea that doesn't involve completely revamping an entire system or taxing their servers beyond what they're currently at, I'm sure they would be ALL ears.
Timesinks and MMOs go together like peas and carrots.

[LaylaTsarra]

My second Zodiac and I love it: Yoichi's Bow



My first is my Lilith Rod for my main role which is my BLM. Back to collecting light now for my Warrior's Bravura axe – about 750 light to go.

[MasamuneBranford]

I agree with the grind - just not grinds that require you to be in 2.0 dungeons so close to the expansion. How will someone find 3 others to get the 16 dungeon drops for zodiac when everyone will be doing level 60 dungeons? How will someone level their novus into nexus with an item level 110 weapon when everyone will be likely running around with a level 160 weapon? It's too close to expansion time to be releasing these quests.

[myahele]

I think they'll probably release another type of grind to make the final relic zenith/ plus 1 before the expansion.

[Felis]

Next relict step is already announced for 2.51
Who know, maybe we have to grind the Golden Saucer for it ^^



Also people would still do 2.0 dungeons in 3.0
3 new jobs are coming, starting with level 1.

[Cyrus-Wallace]

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The same way you do it now. The roulette system is there for a reason, to populate said dungeons. With the incoming nerfs, we don't know if we're going to get either more lights or the light requirement will be cut. You can get them from FATEs and maps as well. Not to mention that this will be doable as you level up from 50-60. Also, keep in mind that you don't require your Nexus equipped and you don't even need to use your class to get the drops from dungeons. They need to create a good motivation to run old dungeons though. It won't be as bad as the low-level roulette, that's for sure.

[Skyl1n3]

My second Zodiac and I love it: Yoichi's Bow

My first is my Lilith Rod for my main role which is my BLM. Back to collecting light now for my Warrior's Bravura axe – about 750 light to go.

Err... what does this have to do with OP's Post?